I had missed the removal of one's own name
aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no consequences
for those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what good can it possibly
do us to know who is responsible.
Mr. Skull
"Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on someone's
part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list, that means I
would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs here. Since we began
the vine system, posts regarding them has become the major influx of
mail.
I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to the
vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it hits the
boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to me, none of you
are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have eliminated all porn
spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap that plagues yahoo
groups. I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List the friendliest,
crap-free group going at yahoo. And that's as far as I care to take it, on
the moderator end...
I think we know where the vines are and who kills them.
The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as we
all have life difficulties from time to time. It shouldn't be
a problem to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless
your pc dies...then what?
Mr. Skull
Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I only
try to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the more
active viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able to
inflict consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it and I
welcome your private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send no boys,
okay? Serious contributors only, please. And I gotta take a minute to thank
JimL for holding down the fort for me in the past - you ROCK,
dude!}
AFA what I recommend in the case of known (or suspected) "vine
killers", if you all know who's killing off vines (Lord knows I have no
clue), then simply move their name to the end of the list, or remove it
altogether. If they respond and bitch, state your case in the most
inoffensive manner possible {remember, personal attacks are simply not
tolerated; use the facts as you see them, and keep your opinion to
yourself}, and request an explanatory response.
Remember, it's your group!
It's unfortunate, but a fact, that some folks are just scum.
I'm one of those that needs to smacked over the head repeatedly with
proof before I believe it of anyone... It's one of the things that makes me
lovable - that, and my tasteful, maroon hue.
Regards,
SOFA
