I know, but this is the whole point! We had been told all along by the Master himself that those Panter LPs were shitty records. Now I find that no, they don't sound like shitty records. And you confer with me that the differences are very subtle... It WAS boring but hey, I did the whole work! :O) Could it be that even Spencer Chrislu didn't have access anymore to those original specs for the Lather remastering project? Thus the CD sounding similar to the LPs'? Anyone has a good copy of the original Lather 4-LP version that would shed a little light on this? Or did Zappa just badmouthed Warner Brothers in order to boycott their releases?
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem I have with all of the "sonic" arguments is that you almost HAVE to listen to the tracks back to back in order to tell any difference - and what fun is that? (Obviously, the tracks with vocals vs. without vocals are pretty different, but 'sonically' it's still negligible.) > There are better representations of radical sonic differences outside of Lather/Panter LP's - Cruising with Ruben & the Jets immediately comes to mind... > Speaking of differences, where are we with the "We're Only In It for The Money" project that was mentioned so long ago? Just curious... > SOFA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: myrtleedop > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:31 PM > Subject: [Zappa-List] The "3 doomed Warner Brothers LPs": how do you think they REALLY sound? > > > I have brought this topic up in the past. But now I have "gotten down > to business" and carefully compared the original USA Discreet LPs > with the Spencer Chrislu mastered equivalent tracks from Lather. (I > do not own the other individual CD versions, which are supposed to be > mixed differently.) > My conclusion is that my ears were not as bad all along, and > those LPs DO sound good (even VERY GOOD most of the time, save for > Duke of Orchestral Prunes, which is quite muffled) . This in spite of > Zappa's contending way back that the masters he had delivered to WB > they couldn't manufacture proper records out of because they hadn't > been provided with the necessary technical specs - I don't remember > the exact technical term - to complete the job and EQ them correctly. > Chrislu's excellent (as always?) CD mastering does have slightly > better percussion (high-end detail). Also, as some of the end-of- side > pieces progress towards the center of the platter, my little Grado > cartridge doesn't track so well and distorts, so the CD equivalent in > those cases is MUCH better... But that is only physics and not > inherent to the master tapes. > All in all, I find it weird that the sonic difference is very far > from dramatic... at least to my ears! > What's your own take/feeling/opinion on this? > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > Yahoo! Groups Links > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
