I was sort of half kidding. Mainly, I wanted to emphisize that it isn't the runtime of ACube we need to worry about but typing out all the input lines.
-Doug --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I really have no intentions to learn ZBLL, but I do believe in the > method. I'll do everything I can to assist in the effort. I have to > disagree with you though Doug, in regards to eliminating group C. > While you could be the main core of the group with your army of > computers, I think it would be a bad idea to rely entirely on one > person for this aspect of the effort. > > As a side note, I know acube has the highest potential in finding > sequences, but cube explorer and even Ron's block solver can be > used. I've found a few gems using both tools, even though one is > fast and usually gives you nothing, and the other is painfully slow. > > As far as the individual groups go, they're not intended to be > restrictive in any way. I'm sure many people will be involved in all > aspects of the process anyway. Organizing it this way will just help > people prioritize their work time (I think). > > I was talking with Chris about the team and I really feel that if we > divide up the tasks, and work together, we'll all be amazed by the > result (gotta love synergy) > > > > > > > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > First I'd like to say that this is an excellent time to get this > > going. Winter break is coming up and I believe Chris will be out of > > school very soon. > > > > I would like to help with maintaining web content since that is > > something I'm good at. > > > > Also, we don't need a group C. I can generate faster than anyone > > here probably, since I work in a computer lab (and have two 3Ghz > > computers in front of me). Just give me a txt with all the input > > sequences and I bet I can get like 300 done a day. > > (Remember to use the ~U and the mask code for say RULM.) > > This should be done by group A. > > > > We need much more group D people, heck everyone should be a group D > > person. > > > > > > -Doug > > > > > > > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "cmhardw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > Richard Patterson and I have been talking, and here is a proposed > > > delgation of responsibility. We're really turning into a research > > > team like Gilles said, so I think it would be best if we > delegated > > the > > > responsibility. > > > > > > Here is the proposed delegation. Let's see how this would work > > based > > > on our resources, and also with what each person wants to do. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > A-> The lead will be in charge of delegating groups B, C, & D. > > > > > > B-> Those in charge of Web Space Management have two main > > > responsibilities. First, > > > to receive raw sequences from group C, and to post them online in > a > > > way that it is > > > readily available for group D. Second, to post optimized > sequences > > > received from > > > group D. > > > > > > C-> This group's main responsibility is to generate raw > sequences > > for > > > target cases, > > > as delegated by the lead. Upon generating those raw cases, this > > group > > > will be > > > responsible for sending their output to group B. > > > > > > D-> This group is responsible for optimizing raw sequences posted > > > online by group B. Upon optimizing, this group will send their > > > results to group B to be posted. > > > > > > ** To insure focus and synergy among the groups, the lead must > > > collaborate with all > > > the groups. The target cases should be known and sought by each > > > group. This will > > > help for organizational purposes. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- --- > - > > -- > > > > > > Also since we are a small group, we may need to overlap a little > > bit > > > as well. I am willing to do any of the above responsibilities. > My > > > computer processor is open for searching, and I also really enjoy > > > optimizing sequences. > > > > > > Also we can use my space on speedcubing.com to post sequences > that > > are > > > both raw sequences and optimized. I will e-mail Ron as well and > > see > > > if we can use the space on the algorithms page for our final > > sequences. > > > > > > This is really exciting! I think with this group effort to > > optimize > > > ZBLL that we will be able to bring it into prominence as a method > > and > > > get others interested. Also, I belive that a group effort could > > make > > > ZB a very efficient method, possibly even more efficient that > > Fridrich. > > > > > > It sounds like we are all dedicated and ready to start working on > > the > > > method. All we need now is to organize ourselves and we can > really > > > efficiently start optimizing algs. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. It already sounds like we have people > > > wanting to do certain things, so let's try to organize. > > > > > > First thing, everyone say what you think of the proposed > > delegation. > > > First off, does it fit our resources? Also, do we have enough > > people > > > to make this work? I've made a database, basically just a roll > > call, > > > of who is interested in working in taking part of the > optimization. > > > > > > Well, we won't be the inventors of ZB, but we'll sure be > > remembered as > > > the ones who really turned it into a nice speedcubing method :- ) > > > > > > Let's really turn this team [zb] idea into a serious team that's > > well > > > known in the speedcubing community. > > > > > > Also, with the new variations that are coming up, I think we > should > > > handle those accordingly on the central website. Any alternative > > to > > > ZBLL that includes ZBLL will need optimized algs, so perhaps we > > should > > > start with those cases first in our optimization. If we can fill > > all > > > the algs necessary for a variation of ZB with super nice algs, > > maybe > > > we can bring the skeptics into the method by allowing them to try > a > > > superfast variation of ZB before committing to the whole method. > > > > > > This is all very exciting for me! I'm glad that we all have the > > > interest in this method! > > > > > > Ok, everyone post in the database if you are interested in being > on > > > the research team, and also what resources are available to you. > > > > > > Thanks everyone, and I think we've definitely become a full > > strength > > > team. Now we just have to show the speedcubing community that > > we're > > > serious, and that we mean business. > > > > > > Chris > > > Team [ZB] > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. 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