For no edge permutation, you said you don't like that case? F (RUR'U')*3 F' 1.69 (2.39) 2.13 1.78 2.10 1.82 1.68 1.88 1.59 (1.56) 1.77 1.96 => 1.84 average. For 14 moves, that's 7.6 tps average. It is a very nice case. :) I started cube in hands, timing with stackmat.
~ Bob --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is H-Orientation with Diagonally swapped corners. > > It is a bit uncharted territory... hence it is not yet numbered. I > was waiting for Chris to finish naming those cases. He told me he'd > do this (all of them) over break. > > > -Doug > > > > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The cases you have listed on that page...what # are they? ie - H1, > H2, > > etc? > > > > ~ Bob > > > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, Gilles van den Peereboom > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm aware that I haven't listed all the cases yet but these are > the > > only one > > > on which I've worked on at the moment and they still need to be > > improved. > > > I'll add all the images later tonight so that you can see what's > > left to do > > > with this case (which H case is it ? H2 or something else ?) > > > > > > And for the permutation image (not the 3D cube), do you have some > > sort of > > > program or do you do them yourself in paint or something ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gilles. > > > > > > 2005/12/13, Doug Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > This site seems to be issing some cases: > > > > http://www.belgiancubes.be/zbll/index.html > > > > > > > > There are typically 12 edge cases if you count mirrors and > inverses. > > > > Give timings for these, and write them in trigger notation. > > > > > > > > I typically avoid taking a lead role in things, but since it's > beeen > > > > rather quite and people are itching to do work I'm going to > give > > > > some suggestions. > > > > > > > > Since Jason is working on T5, he could work on improving those > algs > > > > and give us timings. > > > > > > > > Since Chris started work on U2, that is his territory. > > > > > > > > I have yet to get a reply about my L1 algs, I would especially > > > > appriciate it if DanH would give those a look since he asked > about > > > > them a while ago. (Although I'm sure he's busy lately since he > > > > hasn't even posted his L1 list yet, on his site.) > > > > > > > > I am going to post my H1 algs next. > > > > > > > > In general look though the T-Orientation cases and see if > there's a > > > > rather long one that can be beter executed. > > > > > > > > If anyone has other no CP algs (that are possiblity better > than what > > > > we already have), now is a good time to post them. I would > > > > especially like revised T1 and U1 algs, since those seem to be > the > > > > slowest no CP cases..., for me at least. > > > > > > > > If any of you want to work on unexplored territory, claim it > first > > > > by posting here so that we don't have people working on the > > > > identical thing. > > > > > > > > Collaborate, Divide and Conquer! > > > > > > > > > > > > -Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, Gilles van den Peereboom > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As you are the only one who has had the leading position, > > > > > could you describe what it consists in ? > > > > > > > > > > Another possibility is giving some "homework" to everyone > for 3 > > > > weeks :p > > > > > If Doug can get us a big list of raw algorithms (so we need > to > > > > provide him a > > > > > txt file with the cases), I'm sure we could have something > to do > > > > for that > > > > > period. > > > > > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > > > > > Concerning my case, I'll have mid-terms exams in January so > my > > > > time will be > > > > > a bit limited from now on for zb-research. But I can surely > find > > > > at least > > > > > one hour per day to work on zb. > > > > > > > > > > I hope your exams will go well :-) > > > > > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > NB : I learned the entire VH-F2L today :p (not so hard, I > agree. > > > > mostly > > > > > intuitive algorithms) > > > > > > > > > > 2005/12/13, cmhardw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to ask basically what we wanted to do as a group > about > > > > the > > > > > > lead position, or group A. I honestly am willing to > devote the > > > > time > > > > > > to any of the activities in our delegation, but I would > love to > > > > help > > > > > > direct. I will have the free time after I graduate (I > really do > > > > cube > > > > > > in all of my free time, so it won't be a big change). > > > > > > > > > > > > However, there is an issue. On Dec. 19 I am leaving for > > > > California to > > > > > > visit my Grandparents and won't be back until Jan. 6. > During > > > > this > > > > > > time I won't have any access to the internet whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > In this formative period of team [zb] I don't think it > would be > > > > good > > > > > > for me to delegate, simply since I will be absent for > roughly > > > > three > > > > > > weeks very shortly. I will take my laptop with me and > analyze > > > > cases > > > > > > and optimize algs while I am gone though. > > > > > > > > > > > > My question is this, what should we do about the lead > position? > > > > I > > > > > > would love to really be a part of this group and help each > of the > > > > > > groups and try to do all of the group activities we need, > but the > > > > > > truth is that I will be absent for three weeks very soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > So we need a lead, or preferably more than one in case the > other > > > > is > > > > > > absent. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am more than willing to dedicate my time to team [zb] and > > > > would love > > > > > > to do so, but I simply cannot do that until after Jan. 6 > next > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > > > > Who else wants to take over in a lead position and make > sure the > > > > group > > > > > > is directed in a good direction? > > > > > > > > > > > > This organization is so awesome, and I am so excited to > see us > > > > coming > > > > > > together into a real research team. 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