To know zen, the easiest method is to sit zazen.
You are free to try other methods, of course.
--Chris
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:50 AM, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> [Anthony:] Zen is illogical, so undefinable.
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> [Ed:] To an individual student, the utterances of his Zen master may
> appear to be none, one or both of {logical, not-logical} simultaneously. In
> other words, Zen is beyond logic, or is it?
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> [Bill!:] Zen is allogical – not confined or restricted by logic.
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> [Ed:] alogical: not based upon logic or reasoned argument; opposed to
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> 'Zen is alogical' is a statement which although true tells us next to
> nothing about zen. For instance, romantic love is alogical too.
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> If you asked me 'What is a cat?' and I responded 'A cat is not a dog.',
> this truthful response would be telling you next to nothing about a cat.
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