I agree with that statement.

But I'd also agree with the statement... A person who applies his or her 
feelings to their daily life may or may not be wise.

Or... A person who jumps up and down and rubs their belly may or may not be 
wise.  

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill,
> What do you think of this statement..... A person who applies his or her 
> logic to their day to day life may or may not be wise.
> 
> Brett
> http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
> 
> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Spock?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 7:40 PM
> 
> 
> Brett,
> 
> You made no mistake.  You expressed your opinion.  I expressed mine.
> 
> Your opinion is your opinion.  It can never be wrong unless you lie about 
> what you really think.  You opinions can change from day to day however, but 
> that doesn't make your previously held opinons wrong.  They're just 
> out-of-date now.  In fact they might come back around and become current 
> again.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@> wrote:
> >
> > My mistake in the definition of this word, makes me feel not very logical.
> > 
> > Brett
> > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Spock?
> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 5:27 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Brett,
> > 
> > I half-agree with you.
> > 
> > Logic has nothing at all to do with the truth.  Logic is knowing and 
> > following fules.
> > 
> > I do agree with you that wisdom is the ability to apply...although I'd say 
> > 'apply knowlege' not 'apply truth'.
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think logic and wisdom are two different things, here is my 
> > > definition... logic is knowing the truth, wisdom is applying it. 
> > > 
> > > Brett
> > > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
> > > 
> > > --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Chris Austin-Lane <chris@>
> > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Spock?
> > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 9:01 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I find the direction zen is leading me is not away from my feelings and 
> > > toward logical thought, but towards an ability to thoroughly know my 
> > > feelings without subsequently doing regrettable things. Feelings are 
> > > inseparable from living. 
> > > I find the idea that logic and reason can be effective goal setters to be 
> > > oddly at odds with reality. Logic and reason are very useful servants but 
> > > they cannot provide a context for decision making. 
> > > When I sit, at least, I see a wild system of counter balancing impulses 
> > > and tendencies; I can hope to respect the balance and stop cranking up 
> > > the static, to let the systems do their jobs, but I must say making it 
> > > into a system governed by logic and reason, not gonna happen. :-)  but 
> > > that is fine, the idea of a man governed by logic is just an (enjoyable) 
> > > fantasy.
> > > Live long and prosper,
> > > --Chris
> > > 
> > > On Feb 4, 2011 8:43 AM, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Definitions:
> > > 'feelings' = interior sensations in humans
> > > 'emotions' = exterior expressions of feelings
> > > 'V-humans' = subset of humans comparable to Vulcans.
> > >  
> > > Then, the statement for 'V-humans' corresponding to your statement below 
> > > for Vulcans might be:
> > > "V-humans experience subdued feelings, and so they can with ease avoid 
> > > emoting. (This mind-state has been achieved in the course of an extended 
> > > period of time through meditation practices and other 
> > > mind-training procedures.) Due to their equanimous mind-state, V-humans 
> > > can deal more rationally with life situations."
> > >  
> > > 'Just as a solid massive rock remains unshaken by the wind, so too, in 
> > > face of blame and praise, the wise remain immovable.'      --Dhammapadda 
> > > Verse: 81
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Dave P" <wookielifeday@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Vulcans do not lack emotion. This is an all too common misconception. 
> > > > It is merely that our emoti...
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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