OK, DPZ, I will jump in.

You appear to be a pretty thorough and astute person. I will assume that
you do not want to move from your current residence. Locate the nearest
Zen Center that seems OK to you and go do group Zazen, sesshins, etc.
with them. Treat everything that happens thereafter as grist for the
mill of your awakening.

Best regards, ED



--- In [email protected], Dave Lochhaas <lochhaas.d@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, am new to this group, about a week or so now, and the subject has
come up which led me to this group to begin with. It seems some opinions
are that lineage and authentic Zen masters are required, if not
mandatory, for one to advance along the path of Zen. I have several
questions regarding that thought but first let me make my disclaimer.
>
> I try to do my best to say what I mean but important to me in the use
and understanding of words is the recognition of the honesty,
truthfulness, and intent behind the words. Most important to me is the
quality of the words of others, not the quantity. So these are my
questions (honestly):
>
> 1. Is an "authentic Zen master" required?
> 2. Does this master have to have a lineage?
> 3. How does one find such a master?
> 4. Who or what authenticates this master?
> 5. What are the qualities that make a master?
> 6. Being part of a lineage, is that enough?
>
> Answers I've already discarded:
> 1. You'll know one when you see one. This is similar to "When the
student is ready, the teacher will appear." (How is one that is still
learning expected to recognize a master?)
> 2. A "Master" can be recognized by the quantity of students?
> 3. A "Master" will identify himself as such.
>
> My personal "current" operating answers:
> 1. The path of Zen is clear. It is zazen. All that is required is to
just sit.
> 2. A teacher is one who maintains a low profile, is humble, and does
not market himself (herself) or allow others to do so for them.
> 3. A teacher, among other things, has qualities that I would like to
have in myself.
> 4. Arrogance, pride, aggressiveness, demands of respect or worship,
unseemly wealth, conspicuous consumption, markets several books a year,
etc., all these are signs of someone who is not a master.
> 5. Zen is not complicated. It becomes complicated when it is
intellectualized.
>
> Thanks for comments. Zen is for everyone so treat me as a simple and
uncomplicated child.
>
> Best regards,
> DPZ


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