On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, ED wrote:
> Chris,
> Can you explain? (Zenspeak fails to enlighten me in this matter.)
> --ED
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> --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>>
>> A day without work is a day without food. whose work? whose food?
There is a famous old Zen saying: a day without work, is a day without food.
The self-sufficiency of the zen monasteries is one reason Zen survived
the anti-Buddhist times in China.
One might take this attitude to be the opposite of conventional
compassion, a hard core selfish ness, but only if you add in
distinctions between different people onto the saying.
I thout it would be funny, given the dialog about work going on.
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>> > Mike,
>> > Pro bono work is laudable. But first, one has to earn one's keep. Zen
>> > stories emphasize this aspect of real (illusory) existence.
>> > In one religion, one of the primary duties of the father is to ensure that
>> > his son focuses on a profession to support himself and his future family.
>> > This is very laudable too.
>> > Zen, like this religion, has it's feet on the ground, while it seeks to
>> > realize Buddha Nature (without seeking to realize Buddha Nature.)
>> > --ED
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>> >> ED,
>> >>
>> >> >Or as you have pointed out before, there is no self to turn around.
>> >> Zen Masters selling water by the river! Ho Ho Ho. But everyone has got
>> >> to make a living somehow.
>> >>
>> >> Don't worry, I work pro bono for those without means.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
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>> >> Mike,
>> >>
>> >> Or as you have pointed out before, there is no self to turn around.
>> >> Zen Masters selling water by the river! Ho Ho Ho. But everyone has got
>> >> to make a living somehow.
>> >>
>> >> --ED
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>> >> > ED,
>> >> >
>> >> > I like my self and I enjoy being in the world, but maybe the trick is
>> >> > to not let the world turn the self around.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
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>> >> > Selves make the world go round.
>> >> > --ED
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>> >> > > Chris,
>> >> > > The 'Never Ending Story', apparently never ending.
>> >> > > Mike
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>> >> > > > Have you ever encountered an individual devoid of self or ego?
>> >> > > >--ED
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