It is the Implied not eating for non-workers that is contrary to my conventional idea of compassion. And which is not a problem unless you divide people into workers and workers.
Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Mar 29, 2011, at 8:43, "ED" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Nothing elfish about earning one's daily bread. > > > > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > > > There is a famous old Zen saying: a day without work, is a day without food. > > > > The self-sufficiency of the zen monasteries is one reason Zen survived > > the anti-Buddhist times in China. > > > > One might take this attitude to be the opposite of conventional > > compassion, a hard core selfish ness, but only if you add in > > distinctions between different people onto the saying. > > > > I thout it would be funny, given the dialog about work going on. > > > > > > > Chris, > > > Can you explain? (Zenspeak fails to enlighten me in this matter.) > > > --ED > > > > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane chris@ wrote: > > >> > > >> A day without work is a day without food. whose work? whose food? > > > >> > Mike, > > >> > Pro bono work is laudable. But first, one has to earn one's keep. Zen > > >> > stories emphasize this aspect of real (illusory) existence. > > >> > In one religion, one of the primary duties of the father is to ensure > > >> > that his son focuses on a profession to support himself and his future > > >> > family. This is very laudable too. > > >> > Zen, like this religion, has it's feet on the ground, while it seeks > > >> > to realize Buddha Nature (without seeking to realize Buddha Nature.) > > >> > --ED > > > >> >> ED, > > >> >> > > >> >> >Or as you have pointed out before, there is no self to turn around. > > >> >> Zen Masters selling water by the river! Ho Ho Ho. But everyone has got > > >> >> to make a living somehow. > > >> >> > > >> >> Don't worry, I work pro bono for those without means. > > >> >> > > >> >> Mike > > > >> >> Mike, > > >> >> > > >> >> Or as you have pointed out before, there is no self to turn around. > > >> >> Zen Masters selling water by the river! Ho Ho Ho. But everyone has got > > >> >> to make a living somehow. > > >> >> > > >> >> --ED > > > >> >> > ED, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I like my self and I enjoy being in the world, but maybe the trick > > >> >> > is > > >> >> > to not let the world turn the self around. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Mike > > > >> >> > Selves make the world go round. > > >> >> > --ED > > > >> >> > > Chris, > > >> >> > > The 'Never Ending Story', apparently never ending. > > >> >> > > Mike > > > >> >> > > > Have you ever encountered an individual devoid of self or ego? > > >> >> > > >--ED > > > >
