Yes, babaji.   -- Somebody ;-)



"I am nobody and nothing. This body has no meaning. I am only a mirror
in

which you can perceive yourself. I am like fire: don't stay too far away
or you

will not get the warmth. But don't get too near or you may burn
yourself. Learn

the right distance."   --Baba ji



--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
>
> Slowly but surely you're ever creeping forward to my India
'experience' ; )
>
> Mikeji





"From:  "Be As You Are"

Sri Ramana Maharshi taught that every conscious activity of the mind or
body, for example `I think', `I remember', 'I feel' `I am acting', [I am
mindful. ?] etc., revolves around the tacit assumption that there is an
individual `I' who is doing something, a common factor and mental
fiction termed the `I'-thought (a translation of Aham-Vritti, which
literally means `mental modification of `I').

He equated individuality with the mind and the mind with the `I'-thought
which is dependent upon identification with an object, and said that
after Self-realization there is no thinker of thoughts, no performer of
actions and no awareness of individual existence.

When the thoughts arise, he said, the `I'-thought claims ownership of
them- `I think', `I believe', `I want', `I am acting'.

In reality, there is no separate `I' that exists independently of the
objects that it is identifying with, rather, an incessant flow of
misidentifications based on an initial assumption that the `I' is
individual and associated with the bodily form.

He considered this `I am the body' idea as the primary source of all
subsequent wrong identifications and its dissolution as the principal
aim of self-enquiry.

Sri Ramana taught that since the individual `I'-thought cannot exist
without an object, if attention is focused on the subjective feeling of
`I' or `I am' with such intensity that the thoughts `I am this' or `I am
that' do not arise, then the individual `I' will be unable to connect
with objects.

If this awareness of `I' is sustained, the individual `I' (the
`I'-thought) will disappear. In its place will be a direct experience of
the Self. This constant attention to the inner awareness of `I' or `I
am' is called self-enquiry (atma vichara).

Sri Ramana Maharshi frequently recommended it as the most efficient and
direct way of discovering the unreality of the `I'-thought.

He taught that the `I'-thought will finally disappear when the
perception of all objects, both physical and mental, cease and only
Self- awareness exists.

This is not brought about by being aware of an `I', but only by BEING
the `I'.

This stage of experiencing the subject rather than being aware of an
object is the culminating phase of self-enquiry.

This important distinction is what distinguishes self-enquiry from most
other spiritual practices.

It also explains why Sri Ramana Maharshi consistently maintained that
most other practices were ineffective.

  He often pointed out that traditional meditations and yoga practices
were predicated on the existence of a subject who meditates on an object
and he would usually add that such a relationship sustained the
`I'-thought instead of eliminating it.

In his view such practices may effectively quieten the mind, and they
may even produce blissful experiences, but they will never culminate in
Self-realisation because the `I'-thought is not being isolated and seen
to have no real existence."



--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> We just have to be careful with mindfulness - it's very much a
double-edged sword in that it can be the catalyst for awakening to
reality, but it can also make us think we've 'got it' when in fact it's
nothing but our ego taking a very subtle rest.

> Also, we need to get past the way we think of mindfulness. In the
beginning we tend to find ourselves consciously employing it at specific
times. "Right, I've done the tidying up, taken a shower and washed the
dishes. Now I'm  going to take the dog out and really focus on what I'm
doing, feel the wind on my face, not zone out and follow any thoughts
and really be here" All well and good.

> But what we've also done there, by definition, is to separate
ourselves between not being mindfull and being mindful which in turn
also reinforces the sense of separateness from our intrinsic awareness
of Budhha.

>  In simple terms, there is an awareness that is unborn and undying
right now which in Vedanta is expressed as 'I Am'. That awareness is
right there with you when you're washing the dishes and putting out the
rubbish and is there prior to just when you think, "Now I'm going to
practice mindfulness" and it's there when you stop being mindful.
>
> Mike

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