Steve,
 
If is true that you punish yourself. However, don't think that the punishment 
will go away simply by not thinking about it.
 
Anthony

--- On Tue, 5/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote:


From: SteveW <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen? Better a Roulette
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 5 April, 2011, 5:47 AM


  





--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>  
> You seriously misunderstand me. I won't harm anybody. That does not mean I 
> fear punishment immediately. But it will come one day and in some form, 
> unless I am a Buddha. But then a buddha does not harm anybody either.
>  
> In other word, if you think you have to work hard to eliminate kelesha, we 
> are in agreement. But if you think kelesha can be done with in a coffeeshop, 
> we had better shut down this forum.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> Anthony, nobody punishes you. If you are hateful you will create a hateful 
> world around you and you will call that "being punished". You are Buddha! You 
> choose heaven and hell and then call it punishment!
"Working to eliminate Kleshas" is just another way of saying that Buddha is 
remembering Buddha. IMO.
Steve






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