There's no self in an unenlighted person or an englightened person.  There's
just never a self.  Zen is not about getting rid of a self.  There's not a
self to get rid of.  You don't even need to get rid of the thoughts whose
contents are an imagination of a self - just know that the imagination is
imagination.

--Chris

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Steve,
>
>
> Anthony, when are you going to let go of being annoyed with everybody and
> everything?
> Steve
>
> Where and when did you see me annoyed?
>
> However, I should have the right to be amused. That is the advantage of
> being a man of low intelligence.
>
>
> Anthony
>
> --- On *Wed, 6/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]>* wrote:
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> From: SteveW <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen? Better a Roulette
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, 6 April, 2011, 7:42 AM
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> --- In 
> [email protected]<http://mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > You say, ' There is no "you" to be either punished or rewarded.'
> >
> > It makes sense to say that a completely enlightened being has no 'you'.
> How do you know who is? Test it by pricking your thigh with a needle. If you
> feel annoyed, the 'you' is still there.
> >
> > Are you completely enlightened? If so, I will add a name to my demon's
> protection list.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > Anthony, when are you going to let go of being annoyed with everybody and
> everything?
> Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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