Bill, Yes, but it is quite OK to say that one's experience of humans,
whether they be holy or unholy, Zen practitioners or not-Zen
practitioners, is that they all work toward gratifying the self, by one
means or another.  --ED



--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> ED, Another solution is just not to think of people as 'holy' or 'not
holy'. They're all just people...Bill!




> > Anthony,
> >
> > One solution to any such-like problem is not to exclude holy men and
> > religious leaders from pursuing money, sex and power legally. I
think
> > that only one Great Religion posesses the wisdom to realize the
> > intelligence of such an attitude.
> >
> > --ED



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