Mel, You say, ' Zen does not speak of progress, or goals' Then why do you sit zen? You are better off at an orgyhouse. That is a place you have no progress or goals. Anthony
--- On Thu, 12/5/11, Mel <[email protected]> wrote: From: Mel <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen with no concepts To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 12 May, 2011, 7:40 PM Anthony's post below was obviously not directed at me, but I'd like to add my thoughts on the matter --- On Thu, 12/5/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: I can see you progressing, although I am way behind. -------------------------------------------------- MEL: Zen does not speak of progress, or goals ---------------------------------------------------- Bill may say yours is Zen Buddhism, not pure zen. Do you care? ------------------------------------------------ MEL: Zen Buddhism, zen, or Zen are just words that aren't worth getting too obsessed about. It's the same with such things as progress..or goals --- On Wed, 11/5/11, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: MEL: Purity in thought..this moment..and the next...and the next...and so on... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you ever noticed that in these moments there is nothing that you can say is 'me'; that they are only moments, so therefore impermanent; and that to try to attach to them ultimately leads to suffering (because there is, in actual fact, nothing to attach to)? -------------------------------------------------- MEL: You are quite right. Truly your statement above is one of those things that makes zen/Zen what it is My experience of each moment was akin to the unfolding of something good, and wonderful...with each moment being different. There were no issues with the 'me'(I had no time to think of the 'me') or working the brain too much with any particular moment, as I was enjoying myself too much..going from one moment to the next Buddha be praised Mel
