JMJM, Of course this 'moral of the story' that "any personal opinion may hinder the journey of others." is a personal opinion that might hinder the journey of others, isn't it?
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: > > Ah, Edgar, you finally showed up. > > Thank you ED. This is the same story that I have heard in Chinese. > > The moral of the story is, "any personal opinion may hinder the journey > of others." > > That's why many teachers in China only repeat phrases from the sutra. > And if you read the sutra, you actually find them to be like riddles or > koan. > > jm > > Learn to de-stress, energize and awaken > http://www.chan-meditation.com > Learn to live with Health, Happiness and Harmony > http://www.chanliving.org > Learn to reach enlightenment > http://www.heartchan.org > To save the world > http://www.universal-oneness.org > > > > On 5/20/2011 8:36 AM, Edgar Owen wrote: > > > > Good story. Because Bill denies causation he is doomed to be > > reincarnated as a fox for 500 lives! > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On May 20, 2011, at 10:56 AM, ED wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Hyakujo's Fox > >> > >> When Hyakujo Osho delivered a certain series of sermons, an old man > >> always followed the monks to the main hall and listened to him. When > >> the monks left the hall, the old man would also leave. One day, > >> however, he remained behind, and Hyakujo asked him, "Who are you, > >> standing here before me?" > >> > >> The old man replied, "I am not a human being. In the old days of > >> Kashyapa Buddha, I was a head monk, living here on this mountain. One > >> day a student asked me, 'Does a man of enlightenment fall under the > >> yoke of causation or not?' I answered, 'No, he does not.' > >> > >> Since then I have been doomed to undergo five hundred rebirths as a > >> fox. I beg you now to give the turning word to release me from my > >> life as a fox. Tell me, does a man of enlightenment fall under the > >> yoke of causation or not?" > >> > >> Hyakujo answered, "He does not ignore causation." > >> > >> No sooner had the old man heard these words than he was enlightened. > >> Making his bows, he said, "I am emancipated from my life as a fox. I > >> shall remain on this mountain. I have a favour to ask of you: would > >> you please bury my body as that of a dead monk." > >> > >> Hyakujo had the director of the monks strike with the gavel and > >> inform everyone that after the midday meal there would be a funeral > >> service for a dead monk. The monks wondered at this, saying, > >> "Everyone is in good health; nobody is in the sick ward. What does > >> this mean?" > >> > >> After the meal Hyakujo led the monks to the foot of a rock on the far > >> side of the mountain and with his staff poked out the dead body of a > >> fox and performed the ceremony of cremation. > >> > >> That evening he ascended the rostrum and told the monks the whole > >> story. obaku thereupon asked him, "The old man gave the wrong answer > >> and was doomed to be a fox for five hundred rebirths. Now, suppose he > >> had given the right answer, what would have happened then?" > >> > >> Hyakujo said, "You come here to me, and I will tell you." > >> > >> Obaku went up to Hyakujo and boxed his ears. Hyakujo clapped his > >> hands with a laugh and exclaimed, "I was thinking that the barbarian > >> had a red beard, but now I see before me the red-bearded barbarian > >> himself." > >> > >> http://oaks.nvg.org/gate-struggles.html#2 > >> > >> > >> --- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > >> Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦â¢Ã§Â²Â¾Ã¦ËŽ <chan.jmjm@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Bill, > >> > > >> > Sorry to admit that I have not read any English book about Zen. > >> > > >> > Please send me something. > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > JM > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
