Siska,
My comments are imbedded below:
[Siska} ...When someone tells lies, and we perceive it as 'bad', then this
perception is illusory. But when a thought of telling lies is bad, then it is
just a thought on itself and it is just it, not illusory. I was wondering
whether with pure awareness, this type of thoughts (mental objects) can still
be there. I rather think they can.
[Bill!] In my opinion all thoughts are illusory, but I'm an extremist on this
point. As Edgar says I think the key is no so much whether this or that is
illusory, but whether you form attachments to it.
[Siska] On volition, my question is then, does it mean that with pure
awareness one acts without volition or with untainted volition?
[Bill!] Volition is a tricky term. Normal usage of 'volition' would imply
'self', something that makes a decsion. When Buddha Nature is manifest there
is no conscious decision-making, but I still beleive there is volition. I
don't know why, or at least I can't explain it very well. I just don't usually
think about these things this way. When Buddha Nature is manifest there is
just 'doing', not so much 'deciding what to do' as we usually ascribe to
'volition'.
[Siska] The way I understand it, Edgar was not saying the same thing. His
description of not attached to attachment was something like: objects arise,
being noted and let go. (Edgar, I apologise in advance if I quoted you wrongly).
>
> My description below is: objects arise and awareness is not affected at all,
> not noting, not letting go, no response. Arising objects will disappear,
> sooner or later, whether you let go or not. It's impermanent.
[Bill!] I'll let Edgar respond to this one, and maybe he already has, but I
think you're both saying pretty much the same thing. When he says "being noted
and let go" I think he means 'being noted and not forming an attachment'. It's
not so much an active 'letting go' as a non-action of 'no attachment'. And
that is very close to what you have said. That's my interpretation anyway.
...Bill!
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