Mike,

Agreed, Mike.  Thoroughly!

The artificially induced changes also do not last.  Not so with awakening found 
via zen practice.  There, you're looking at months or years, and more if you 
continue samadhi practice.

A trained weight-lifter can always lift the front of a VW Beetle; but a freaked 
pedestrian can only lift it once off a run-over child.  Poor analogy, I know.

--Joe

> mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Any artificially induced experience seems shallow in comparison, IMO.




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