there are plenty of folk who want the quick fix...you can sign up...there are many waiting to take you aboard... but is that the way?
i am off to my morning tai chi " practise"..as joe says...just practise merle If it could work to have some outside authority tell me the truth, I would totally sign up for that. Being responsible for not deceiving myself, for not having a fixed position of safety, is harder than just being taken care of. I can totally relate to why people seek shortcuts; though reality offers none, I know how easy deceiving oneself is. As far as the personhood thing, maybe seeing deeply into what it means for us to be a person also changes the idea that a phrase like "personal God" points to. That's been my experience at least as a practicing Christian and a practicing zen student. On Aug 26, 2012 12:30 PM, "Glenn Rogers" <rgthies...@yahoo.ca> wrote: Are there any Gnostic Christians still around? > >In my Shangha searching, I have found many Buddhists who pray/chant to Buddah, >and they seem to view him as a god, rather than their own nature. > >Why would people be more interested in being told what to believe, as opposed >to exploring Truth for themselves? > >Glenn > >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: >> >> On 8/25/2012 1:58 PM, Glenn Rogers wrote: >> > Christian teaching that God is a "person" doesn't click with me. >> >> >> >> Gnostic Christians, and many others, would agree with this. >> >> How many Buddhists pray/chant to Buddha? >> >> Superficial/literal "teachings" are perversions peddled to the masses. >> Tabloid headlines blaring from newsstands called temples and churches. >> This is all most are interested in, so they largely miss the meaning >> behind the message, fail to make it their own realization. >> >> This is not a problem. Both Christ and Buddha are said to have spoken of >> this. No one knows. ;) >> >> KG >> > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
