Kristopher,

Total nonsense in your second sentence...

Edgar


On Sep 5, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> Of the two of us, only you claim to know know Bill!'s delusions. What's your 
> excuse?
> 
> If there is no attachment to a position, there is no disagreement, there are 
> only apparent differences in expression.
> 
> KG
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/5/2012 11:39 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> Kristopher,
>> 
>> 
>> You keep making excuses for Bill!'s delusions!
>> 
>> Disagreement is not "a form of suffering" unless you are attached to it...
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Comfortably stuck in cause and effect, you ignore the sledgehammer!
>>> 
>>> It appears to me that Bill! is not denying food is required to maintain a 
>>> body, that forms appear to maintain forms (no independent origination) - he 
>>> is denying this assumption of "have to" - this neediness that goes with it. 
>>> You don't need to live, and ultimately won't  (impermanence). When hungry, 
>>> eat if you are able. When this is perceived as need (AKA - lack), suffering 
>>> will arise over your ability to do so, over thoughts of death. Your needs, 
>>> your sense of lack, your suffering.
>>> 
>>> Disagreement itself, a form of suffering. Misunderstanding, a form of 
>>> recognition. Same.
>>> 
>>> KG
>>> 
>>> On 9/5/2012 10:14 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> O, for God's sakes Bill!!!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You are certifiable! I've never heard such metaphysical New Age nonsense 
>>>> and certainly never expected it to come from your lips..... Enlightened 
>>>> people don't need                             to eat! Sheesh!
>>>> 
>>>> Edgar
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Bill! wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Edgar (no longer and Merle),
>>>>> 
>>>>> After enlightenment you do not have to eat. You realize food is not 
>>>>> essential. You may choose to eat, but you don't have to.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Illusions do vanish upon realization of Buddha Nature. You may choose to 
>>>>> bring them back or they may reappear without your choice. But after 
>>>>> realizing Buddha Nature you know that all dualistic thought is 
>>>>> fundamentally illusion (not real).
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...Bill! 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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