Now who's the thief?
KG
On 9/8/2012 4:38 AM, Bill! wrote:
Kris,
"A Zen Master lived the simplest kind of life in a little hut at the
foot of a mountain. One evening, while he was away, a thief sneaked
into the hut only to find there was nothing in it to steal. The Zen
Master returned and found him. "You have come a long way to visit me,"
he told the prowler, "and you should not return empty handed. Please
take my clothes as a gift." The thief was bewildered, but he took the
clothes and ran away. The Master sat naked, watching the moon. "Poor
fellow," he mused, " I wish I could give him this beautiful moon."
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> Either way, makes me out to be a thief. ;)
>
>
> Silence cannot be shared, so we interrupt it with talking so as not to
> appear rude.
>
>
> KG
>
>
>
> On 9/8/2012 1:13 AM, Bill! wrote:
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> > When you say it I prefer 'Suchness'.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > "More" or less, misses the point again.
> > >
> > > There is nothing to do to realize this. There is only this
> > experiencing.
> > > 'You' and your 'experience(s)' of objects/events are but aspects of
> > > this, arising and passing. Nothing could be simpler.
> > >
> > > Some realize this some don't. Doesn't change this. How could it
[rhet]?
> > > I realize you may only see and/or express this otherwise. Such
is the
> > > nature of appearances. Suchness ("Just this" if you prefer).
> > >
> > > KG
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/8/2012 12:11 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kris,
> > > >
> > > > More important than whether or not either of these personages
> > actually
> > > > existed or how accurate the [translated] 3rd-person accounts
of what
> > > > they did and what they said is that YOU EXPERIENCE what they
are said
> > > > to have experienced.
> > > >
> > > > And you can do that. I'm confident 10's of thousands or many more
> > than
> > > > that have.
> > > >
> > > > ...Bill!
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/7/2012 7:39 AM, mike brown wrote:
> > > > > > There is a *big* difference between these stories of
Buddha and
> > > > > > Christ. With Buddha's story it makes no difference whether you
> > > > believe
> > > > > > Buddha was a real man or not...
> > > > >
> > > > > So one you accept more readily because you believe it to
likely be
> > > > > allegorical, the other you reject because you believe it claims
> > to be a
> > > > > factual historical account? Surely you can see the irony in
this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every consider both/neither? That it doesn't mater whether
EITHER of
> > > > > these are stories of actual/factual others or not - as they
only
> > point
> > > > > to selfless realization, and reintegration/embodiment? That
they're
> > > > only
> > > > > expressions of the way, and are not offering anyone else's
> > > > > stories/practices/promises as things to cling to or reject?
> > People take
> > > > > that upon themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > KG
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
