Bill, You know, some "teachers", masters, and mature practitioners claim to be able to see a sunset, without having thoughts of, e.g.:
"Beautiful! I wonder if we'll see one like this TOMORROW!?", or; "This is better than the one we saw in HAWAI'I that first night!" Or, they can taste the Cheerios in the morning, and not think: "Damn, is that pension check gonna come today, or ISN'T it?" Martial artists can perform better if they don't have a lot of mental distraction. Just a few examples. Not saying which anyone should like better, and I don't emphasize anything. And not taking anything away from Jim (although he might like that). --Joe > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Jim, > > Nonsense! What can a zen teacher do that you can't? > > Can you see a sunset? Can you taste a lemon? ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/