Net, There is no standard what to eat and not to eat. As long as you don't eat too much, everything will be OK. Encik
________________________________ From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 14 October 2012, 17:57 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Hi Encik, I find it confusing to listen to advices on what to eat and not to eat, and when to eat what, how to serve the food. They also change over time. What was considered good in the past, suddenly become not. Right now, I try to eat moderately whatever it is. Easier said than done. I wish you good health, so you can keep enjoying the pohong. ... And keep posting here.. Net ________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:44:06 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Net, You got me. I am poor in diet selection, eating whatever comes to me, except some terrible ingredients. I had a heart attack in 2002, after which I always have treated egg yolk like plaque. But now, some nutritient is saying after all yolk is not bad. I don't know what to follow, just continue to shun it. My daily medication consists of a blood thinner, such as Plavix or its copycat (now the former's patent has expired), and cholesterol controller, such as Lipitor (patent also expired) or its copycat. I believe in Chinese medicine, despite all they say about 'chi'. Most importantly, morning exercise keeps me alive for a while. By the way, pohong is Surabaya dialect for singkong. Tape wine made from it is delicious. Encik ________________________________ From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012, 9:08 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Encik, I was born and grew up in Jakarta, and you're right, I don't know Pohong. I'm not vegetarian, but often feel uncomfortable when I eat meat, especially with the smell of red meat as I chew. But my practice is to follow example of Theravada monks, who are never to refuse anything served and they eat whatever is in their bowls (I heard it can be a mix of rice, chicken curry, ice cream, durian sticky rice together all in the same bowl). That must be quite a practice of acceptance.... But then, there is this health issues, sustainable consumptions and all that. I was wondering how we can practise "choiceless choice" in regards to eating. How is yours... Respectfully, Your Net ________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:52:47 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Net Siska, The respect given to Encik is from local Malays who learned a lot of technology of rubber planting from the Hokkian encik, I think. As regards diet, I am fond of babi, also OK with kambing and daging. Do you know what is 'pohong'? If you are from Jakarta, you don't know. It can be made into delicious tapee wine. If you are a vegetarian, I respect you. However, you should remember Thai Buddhist monks eat a lot of meat, so did Sakyamuni in his time. He says you should eat whatever food offered by devotees. Encik ________________________________ From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 10:36 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Encik (with Hokkian style respect), Never heard of 'net' before... Uhhmm I'm not really fond of that either :-p If it's alright to be curious, how is your diet? How do you be mindful when it comes to choices... Net Siska ________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:50:56 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Siska, I remember 'om' is the Dutch word for 'uncle', also with respect. The opposite is 'net' or something like that, for nephew or niece. I you don't like shrimp, I offer khao phad mu. Ada babi. Encik ________________________________ From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 8:55 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Hi Uncle, People here are too busy with zen, no time for history. Thanks, sounds like it's something with shrimp. Maybe I'd skip the shrimp? In Indonesia, we don't use the term Encik. Instead we say "Om", which I believe is a Dutch word with same meaning. Siska ________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:37:14 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Siska, Unfortunately I cannot exchange the words, so I prefer to go see an authority, as those on this forum are quiet with no answer. But I offer you Thai khau phad gong, which is as good as nasi goreng. Encik Please note the Hokien word encik has become an honorific title in Malaysia worthy of a lot of honor. ________________________________ From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 15:37 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Hi Uncle, Maybe you can exchange the word "zen" with "history". Now you have too much history and too little zen. You just saved money you'd otherwise have to spend for psychiatrist advice. Maybe you can buy me a lot of chicken rice with that saving... Siska ________________________________ thoseFrom: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:44:45 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Siska, Uncle needs psychiatrist advice, because of too much zen and too little history. Uncle ________________________________ From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 10:12 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty That was not you, uncle? :) Siska ------Original Message------ From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Sent: Oct 8, 2012 04:51 Siska, I forgot something. Sakyamuni also came to Indonesia, where he met and scolded the previous lives of Bill! and Edgar, for not paying respect to karma. Uncle From: "siska_...@yahoo.com" <siska_...@yahoo.com> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2012, 22:45 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Hello Uncle, He may as well be, who knows :-D Cheers, Siska From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:36:02 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty If history is fiction and illusion, I can say Sakyamuni was born in Africa and fought war with American Indians before he became Buddha. Buddha itself is illusion after all. Anthony From: billsmart <billsm...@hhs1963.org> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2012, 16:06 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Edgar, I agree, but I accepted the graphics 'History is a fiction...' as being the same thing as 'history is an illusion'. I was feeling generous...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > Actually more to the point the entire past is an illusion that exists only as > a logical projection from the present... > > Edgar > > > > On Oct 6, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > Even Calvin and Hobbes know this... > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
