Chris,

You're right! The last time a gorilla escaped from the zoo and gatecrashed our 
sesshin that's exactly what happened. Bloody primates.

Mike



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 From: Chris Austin-Lane <ch...@austin-lane.net>
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 21:52
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Sitting straight
 

  
I assure you if someone  shot you whilst sitting with a dart gun with a muscle 
relaxant your spine would fall over. 
The effort may not be needed but the muscles certainly are. 
On Oct 16, 2012 12:38 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mike,
>
>Yes, I did suggest that, here.  That was me.  I recognize it.
>
>I was trained that way, and found out the helpfulness and truth of it in 
>practice, and I always teach that in my Buddhist Yoga classes to beginners and 
>old-timers.
>
>Different adjustments happen in the spine as we sit, even in any one 
>particular sit.  And, yes, some cracks and pops occur, I find.  I don't know 
>enough about clicks and pops upon entering samadhi, though.  It could just be 
>that I am not paying attention, or have a short memory.  Interesting!  I'll 
>take note.
>
>Sometimes there are rapid whip-like movements of the spine, almost like a very 
>sudden and strong "shiver".  Kundalini.  Chi.  Heat goes into the head, 
>dissipates over the scalp, or comes down the front of the body.  One of the 
>"circulation" pathways of Chi in the body, I guess, ...noted and mapped by the 
>Taoist Chi cartographers.  Anyway, all very natural.
>
>I sit in half-lotus in quite a small and compact "footprint", with the knees 
>not far splayed apart.  This gives good support to the spine via the pelvic 
>girdle, I think.  The spine holds itself, with no muscles being needed.
>
>It's a very comfortable posture.  If everyone sat so compactly, we could pack 
>more people into a room on sesshin!  ;-)
>
>--Joe
>
>> mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>>
>> I recall you advising someone here about not using their muscles to hold up 
>> their spine. I find that just before I enter samadhi my spine sometimes 
>> corrects itself - sometimes audibly. From that point on, physically at 
>> least, the meditation is quite comfortable as the spine is supporting all my 
>> limbs like hanging a hat on a coat stand. Do you experience something 
>> similar? I won't go into kundalini like experiences here, but the role of 
>> the spine seems to be quite central (literally!) in it.
>
>
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