Suresh,

Not quite...

If there is a 'watcher' then you've not got to 'pure consciousness' yet; that 
is if you and Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi are using that term to describe what I 
call 'Buddha Nature'.

Buddha Nature is holistic and has no remnants of dualism.  The experience of 
'watcher' is a classic dualistic, subject/object  experience involving the 
'watcher' (subject) and 'that which is watched' - the mind? (object).

Buddha Nature presents no subject/object or 'watcher'/mind dualistic set.  
Buddha Nature is Just THIS!

...Bill!   

--- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Sir,
> 
> Please note according to Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi, `I' is all. This
> `I' he refers to pure consciousness.
> 
> Consciousness in you is the watcher of the mind.  Try to meditate over
> it. Anger comes: who is watching? You know perfectly well that there
> is anger; you know perfectly well that it is coming and growing, you
> know perfectly well that soon you will be overwhelmed by it. And then
> it is going, receding, disappearing, you know it is gone. Gone, gone,
> gone, it is no more there. Who is watching?
> 
> Love comes and goes. Misery comes, happiness comes, everything comes
> and everything goes. Who is watching? The watcher remains.
> 
> Only one thing in you is constant, and that is the watcher. Everything
> changes, only the watcher abides. It is always there, even while you
> are deeply asleep it is watching the dreams; even when there are no
> dreams it is watching the deep sleep.
> 
> When you are awake it is watching the world, when you are asleep it is
> watching your inner world, but the watching continues. Not even for a
> single moment does the watching stop. That is the eternal thing in
> you. And it is one.
> 
> This watcher in you is what referred as consciousness or `I' as
> mentioned by Ramana Maharishi. This consciousness if compared to
> things which you know, then it is `space'. Look at the space it is
> everywhere in the universe it is same and one single thing, and it
> contains many objects.
> 
> So according to Ramana Maharishi, you are not the body like earth, you
> are the space on which this earth moves. So can space has any
> difference such as my space against your space, it is one indivisible
> all over universe.
> 
> So according to Ramana Maharishi the body of guru is just like you and
> me or any other body, so it should be treated equal. Guru is not that
> body, he is pure consciousness or space or this whole universe, which
> you don't realize and try to bribe this guru body, which is a kind of
> cheating you are doing for yourself. By shouting at your ignorance he
> is trying to wake you to see he is not the body.
> 
> Yesterday I had dream. I was on a ship, ship was close to a Port, I am
> like one of the passenger or officer a 'body' was identified as `I',
> and a captain on board doing difficult maneuver, and suddenly ship
> capsized, all are shouting, but it happened to me that identification
> with a body was no more there, I was sheer watching all happening from
> the above. After some time I got up and shocked, then I realized this
> is what truth is. The pure consciousness is what `I' is. The body is
> small tool in the hands of consciousness, it can be without it.
> 
> Best regards
> Suresh
> 
> 
> Consciousness in you is the watcher of the mind.  Try to meditate over
> it. Anger comes: who is watching? You know perfectly well that there
> is anger; you know perfectly well that it is coming and growing, you
> know perfectly well that soon you will be overwhelmed by it. And then
> it is going, receding, disappearing, you know it is gone. Gone, gone,
> gone, it is no more there. Who is watching?
> 
> Love comes and goes. Misery comes, happiness comes, everything comes
> and everything goes. Who is watching? The watcher remains.
> 
> Only one thing in you is constant, and that is the watcher. Everything
> changes, only the watcher abides. It is always there, even while you
> are deeply asleep it is watching the dreams; even when there are no
> dreams it is watching the deep sleep.
> 
> When you are awake it is watching the world, when you are asleep it is
> watching your inner world, but the watching continues. Not even for a
> single moment does the watching stop. That is the eternal thing in
> you. And it is one.
> 
> This watcher in you is what referred as consciousness or `I' as
> mentioned by Ramana Maharishi. This consciousness if compared to
> things which you know, then it is `space'. Look at the space it is
> everywhere in the universe it is same and one single thing, and it
> contains many objects.
> 
> So according to Ramana Maharishi, you are not the body like earth, you
> are the space on which this earth moves. So can space has any
> difference such as my space against your space, it is one indivisible
> all over universe.
> 
> So according to Ramana Maharishi the body of guru is just like you and
> me or any other body, so it should be treated equal. Guru is not that
> body, he is pure consciousness or space or this whole universe, which
> you don't realize and try to bribe this guru body, which is a kind of
> cheating you are doing for yourself. By shouting at your ignorance he
> is trying to wake you to see he is not the body.
> 
> Yesterday I had dream. I was on a ship, ship was close to a Port, I am
> like one of the passenger or officer a 'body' was identified as `I',
> and a captain on board doing difficult maneuver, and suddenly ship
> capsized, all are shouting, but it happened to me that identification
> with a body was no more there, I was sheer watching all happening from
> the above. After some time I got up and shocked, then I realized this
> is what truth is. The pure consciousness is what `I' is. The body is
> small tool in the hands of consciousness, it can be without it.
> 
> Best regards
> Suresh
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> J.Suresh
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