Mike,
Zen training contains all sorts of practical work. Most of it is to give us
experience with taking our samadhi or its aftermath up off the floor and into
activity. We get a LOT of training in that. I like to say that only about
1/13th of Zen training is Zazen. ;-)
The indispensable 1/13th-part.
Surely I advocate for the Zen way, in this Zen forum. And I say that insight
is not enough for a Zen person. A Zen person, in the first place, is not
practicing for insight. And insight is not in the name of (any of) our
practice(s).
When everything stops, there is no insight. Wisdom and compassion arise in
accord with circumstances. We do our daily work and do not create loose ends
and dangling karma. That's all I know about this!
--Joe
> uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> <br/>Joe,<br/><br/>No insult taken! <br/><br/>Yes, of course. If insight is
> left on the cushion and not integrated into daily life then it's not true
> insight. Same with satori, I would think. <br/><br/>Remember, Vipassana is
> simply insight into impermanence and cause and effect. Everything else flows
> from that. But it's not the same as the insight a physicist would have - it's
> experienced. And experienced in this body/mind, so taken where ever this
> body/mind is whether on the mat, doing the dishes, taking a dump etc.
> <br/><br/>To be at that place beyond cause and effect (karma, if you like)
> and conditions is Nirvana. It can be realised now in this very lifetime and
> there are many paths that can lead us to where we already are. Yours is just
> one. <br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
>
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