Bill and Joe, Yes, but your parents are supposed to teach you how to think rationally, not teach you Zen.
Apparently the've failed on both accounts? :-) Edgar On Jun 13, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Joe wrote: > Bill!, > > Well observed. > > Those who undervalue the benefits we derive from being taught by parents and > teachers and by Culture reminds me of the efforts by some who engage in > electioneering. They sometimes try to enhance to an extreme their semblance > of independence and self-reliance. > > A funny instance of this came up during a discussion in the midst of the > selection of candidates during the recent Presidential campaign in USA. One > commentator observed that a certain candidate seemed to want people to > believe that: > > "...he himself had built the log cabin that he was born in". > > ;-) > > Having a good laugh again today, recalling this, in the present discussion > about Zen teaching and teachers. > > --Joe > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > > Edgar, > > > > You asked, "Did you need a teacher to start breathing when you were born?" > > > > I may have done that spontaneously but I may have needed a slap on my butt > > to start that process. I don't remember. > >