yes chris..you are on the correct path to this trivial...i think edgar calls it comic book zen...merle
http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA http://zenhabits.net/ I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here. You've never seen US culture trivialize zen? http://cherrycrime26.hubpages.com/hub/Meditation-Techniques-To-Manifest-Money http://www.zenprofits.com/ http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Centered-Transform-Your-Weeks-Meditation/dp/1401935869 Oh well, Chris Thanks, --Chris ch...@austin-lane.net +1-301-270-6524 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe <desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com> wrote: Chris, > >I never heard such stuff. Dunno where you may be coming from. > >It may be just a geographic or cultural proclivity, or merely and importantly >personal. > >I hope you and your chosen teacher will take these things up, if they are >important in (Zen) practice. > >Best, > > >--Joe > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >> > >> I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware >> experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a non-problem >> to me. >> >> I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize >> everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. >> http://zeninamoment.com/ or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 >> http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi >> >> People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can acquire, >> rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own >> tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is extremely >> non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these >> tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; it >> is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. >> >> In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most profound >> moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a >> chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction. >> >> Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" might >> help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"? I find >> it likely enough to be worth discussing. > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
