bill..you are so so right...merle
Merle, >From a capitalistic point of view nothing is 'sacred' or 'off-limits' to buy >and sell. We buy and sell animals, people, children, internal organs stolen >from living people. Some things are illegal but nothing is 'sacred' - from a >capitalistic point of view. 'Priceless'? That's probably just be a starting point in a commecial negotiation. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  bill..i am referring to the monetary value..noting escapes the dollar..all > is for sale..is nothing sacred and priceless?...merle > > >  > Merle, > > No, nothing is sacred. Nothing is damned. It's only our dualistic, > discriminating mind that makes it seem that way. > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > >  bill.... i only realised after i posted this... they do sell > > fingernails...acrylic ones....... is nothing sacred ?..merle > >  > > Merle, > > > > It could be worse...they could be offering for sale their live mother's > > fingernails... :>( > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  bill!..yes anything to make a quid!... i have a saying: those > > > same folk would sell their dead mother's fingernails !..merle > > > > > > > > >  > > > Merle, > > > > > > ...and as you and Chris noted in an early post they've already started > > > selling Buddha Nature and enlightenment... > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ excellent bill....ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > never dreamt of the day in australia when they would sell water..now it > > > > is so...and next will be air...and bottled sunshine..merle > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Chris, Merle, Joe, et al... > > > > > > > > Could you get anymore trivial and any more true than the saying which > > > > is also the title of a book: "selling water by the river"? > > > > > > > > What is more trivial than water? What is more precious than water? > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ yes chris..you are on the > > > > > correct path to this trivial...i think edgar calls it comic book > > > > > zen...merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://zenhabits.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ You've never seen US > > > > > culture trivialize zen?ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cherrycrime26.hubpages.com/hub/Meditation-Techniques-To-Manifest-Money > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.zenprofits.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Centered-Transform-Your-Weeks-Meditation/dp/1401935869 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh well,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > --Chris > > > > > chris@ > > > > > +1-301-270-6524 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > > > > >I never heard such stuff. ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > >Dunno where you may be coming from. > > > > > > > > > > > >It may be just a geographic or cultural proclivity, or merely and > > > > > >importantly personal. > > > > > > > > > > > >I hope you and your chosen teacher will take these things up, if > > > > > >they are important in (Zen) practice. > > > > > > > > > > > >Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--Joe > > > > > > > > > > > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of > > > > > >> aware > > > > > >> experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a > > > > > >> non-problem > > > > > >> to me. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to > > > > > >> trivialize > > > > > >> everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. > > > > > >> http://zeninamoment.com/ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > >> or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 > > > > > >> http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi > > > > > >> > > > > > >> People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can > > > > > >> acquire, > > > > > >> rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their > > > > > >> own > > > > > >> tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is > > > > > >> extremely > > > > > >> non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these > > > > > >> tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it > > > > > >> trivial; it > > > > > >> is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most > > > > > >> profound > > > > > >> moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we > > > > > >> have a > > > > > >> chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing > > > > > >> abstraction. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of > > > > > >> God" might > > > > > >> help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha > > > > > >> nature"? ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ I find > > > > > >> it likely enough to be worth discussing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or > > > > > >are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
