PBS,

In fact you could say that most of our perceptions are like analogies 
themselves...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, pandabananasock@... wrote:
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> 
> Bill!,
> It takes one to know one!
> ~PeeBeeEss
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>  On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 10:30 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
>  
>  >PBS,
>  >
>  >Good analogy!
>  >
>  >...Bill!
>  >
>  >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, pandabananasock@ wrote:
>  >>
>  >> 
>  >> Perception, delusion, thought... these are all based on each other. 
> Experience just IS. You can't think of anything you don't already know -- 
> thoughts that feel new are just new combinations of pieces of old knowledge.
>  >> 
>  >> When we do experience "experience", mind is aware of it, and does what it 
> does best, which is to 'realize' it (VERY quickly, too). At this point, it is 
> no longer 'experience'.
>  >> 
>  >> It's like going bird-watching; you quietly sneak upon a beautiful 
> specimen. As you slowly reach for your binoculars, your dumb-ass buddy 
> shouts, "HEY!! THERE'S ONE UP THERE!!! HURRY, IT'S FLYING AWAY FOR SOME 
> REASON!! WHY IS IT THAT EVERY TIME I SEE A BIRD IT FLIES AWAY?!?!"
>  >> 
>  >> Your buddy really believes the bird is flying away because it was seen; 
> he is confusing his identifying shouts for the act of seeing the bird. You'd 
> have a much easier time (effortless, in fact) if you went to the woods by 
> yourself, but your buddy is the one with the car!
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> ------------------------------
>  >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 9:48 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
>  >> 
>  >> >Merle,
>  >> >
>  >> >First of all perceptions are neither good or bad, they're just 
> delusional. There only 'bad' if you form attachments to them (believe they 
> are real).
>  >> >
>  >> >In the quote my interpretations is 'seeing' is experience and 'thinking' 
> is perception and other intellectual activities.
>  >> >
>  >> >The quote is:
>  >> >
>  >> >"The foolish reject what they see and not what they think;..."
>  >> >
>  >> >This to me a caution about placing more importance in thinking than 
> experience. 
>  >> >
>  >> >"..the wise reject what they think and not what they see."
>  >> >
>  >> >This to me is an encouragement to put less importance on what you think 
> and more on what you experience.
>  >> >
>  >> >...Bill!
>  >> >
>  >> >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
>  >> >
>  >> > 
>  >> > 
>  >> >  
>  >> >  seeing is good
>  >> >  thinking is bad... 
>  >> > is this the correct perception ?..
>  >> > merle
>  >> > 
>  >> > 
>  >> >   
>  >> > This is mainly for Merle.
>  >> > 
>  >> > I thought it might help if I enlisted a little help from one of my 
> buddies...
>  >> > 
>  >> > 
>  >> > ...Bill!
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >
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