PBS, In fact you could say that most of our perceptions are like analogies themselves...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, pandabananasock@... wrote: > > > Bill!, > It takes one to know one! > ~PeeBeeEss > > > ------------------------------ > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 10:30 AM EDT Bill! wrote: > > >PBS, > > > >Good analogy! > > > >...Bill! > > > >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, pandabananasock@ wrote: > >> > >> > >> Perception, delusion, thought... these are all based on each other. > Experience just IS. You can't think of anything you don't already know -- > thoughts that feel new are just new combinations of pieces of old knowledge. > >> > >> When we do experience "experience", mind is aware of it, and does what it > does best, which is to 'realize' it (VERY quickly, too). At this point, it is > no longer 'experience'. > >> > >> It's like going bird-watching; you quietly sneak upon a beautiful > specimen. As you slowly reach for your binoculars, your dumb-ass buddy > shouts, "HEY!! THERE'S ONE UP THERE!!! HURRY, IT'S FLYING AWAY FOR SOME > REASON!! WHY IS IT THAT EVERY TIME I SEE A BIRD IT FLIES AWAY?!?!" > >> > >> Your buddy really believes the bird is flying away because it was seen; > he is confusing his identifying shouts for the act of seeing the bird. You'd > have a much easier time (effortless, in fact) if you went to the woods by > yourself, but your buddy is the one with the car! > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 9:48 AM EDT Bill! wrote: > >> > >> >Merle, > >> > > >> >First of all perceptions are neither good or bad, they're just > delusional. There only 'bad' if you form attachments to them (believe they > are real). > >> > > >> >In the quote my interpretations is 'seeing' is experience and 'thinking' > is perception and other intellectual activities. > >> > > >> >The quote is: > >> > > >> >"The foolish reject what they see and not what they think;..." > >> > > >> >This to me a caution about placing more importance in thinking than > experience. > >> > > >> >"..the wise reject what they think and not what they see." > >> > > >> >This to me is an encouragement to put less importance on what you think > and more on what you experience. > >> > > >> >...Bill! > >> > > >> >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >  > >> >  seeing is good > >> >  thinking is bad... > >> > is this the correct perception ?.. > >> > merle > >> > > >> > > >> >  > >> > This is mainly for Merle. > >> > > >> > I thought it might help if I enlisted a little help from one of my > buddies... > >> > > >> > > >> > ...Bill! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >------------------------------------ > >> > > >> >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/