Hi Robert,

We've got the default ncsize. I didn't see any advantage to increasing
it outside of NFS serving...which this server is not. For speed the
X4500 is showing to be a killer MySQL platform. Between the blazing
fast procs and the sheer number of spindles, its perfromance is
tremendous. If MySQL cluster had full disk-based support, scale-out
with X4500s a-la Greenplum would be terrific solution.

At this point, the ZFS memory gobbling is the main roadblock to being
a good database platform.

Regarding the paging activity, we too saw tremendous paging of up to
24% of the X4500s CPU being used for that with the default arc_max.
After changing it to 4GB, we haven't seen anything much over 5-10%.

Best Regards,
Jason

On 1/10/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Jason,

Thursday, January 11, 2007, 12:36:46 AM, you wrote:

JJWW> Hi Robert,

JJWW> Thank you! Holy mackerel! That's a lot of memory. With that type of a
JJWW> calculation my 4GB arc_max setting is still in the danger zone on a
JJWW> Thumper. I wonder if any of the ZFS developers could shed some light
JJWW> on the calculation?

JJWW> That kind of memory loss makes ZFS almost unusable for a database system.


If you leave ncsize with default value then I belive it won't consume
that much memory.


JJWW> I agree that a page cache similar to UFS would be much better.  Linux
JJWW> works similarly to free pages, and it has been effective enough in the
JJWW> past. Though I'm equally unhappy about Linux's tendency to grab every
JJWW> bit of free RAM available for filesystem caching, and then cause
JJWW> massive memory thrashing as it frees it for applications.

Page cache won't be better - just better memory control for ZFS caches
is strongly desired. Unfortunately from time to time ZFS makes servers
to page enormously :(


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 Robert                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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