Do you need registered ECC, or will non-reg ECC do to get around this
issue you described?



On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:48 +0700, VO wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> I recently got bitten by a "panic on `zpool import`" problem (same CR
> 6915314), while testing a ZFS file server. Seems the pool is pretty much
> gone, did try
> - zfs:zfs_recover=1 and aok=1 in /etc/system
> - `zpool import -fF -o ro`
> to no avail. I don't think I will be taking the time trying to fix it unless
> someone has good ideas. I suspect bad data was written to the pool and seems
> there is no way to recover; fmdump shows problem with same block on all
> disks IIRC.
> 
> The server hardware is pretty ghetto with whitebox components such as
> non-ECC RAM (cause of the pool loss). I know the hardware sucks but
> sometimes non-technical people don't understand the value of data before it
> is lost.. I was lucky the system had not been sent out yet and the project
> was "simply" delayed.
> 
> In light of this experience, I would say raidz is not useful in certain
> hardware failure scenarios. Bad bit in the RAM at the wrong time and the
> whole pool is lost.
> 
> Does the list have any ideas on how to make this kind of ghetto system more
> resilient (short of buy ECC RAM and mobo for it)?
> 
> I was thinking something like this:
> - pool1: raidz pool for the bulk data
> - pool2: mirror pool for backing up the raidz pool, only imported when the
> copying pool1 to pool2
> 
> What would be the most reliable way to copy the data from pool1 to pool2
> keeping in mind "bad bit in RAM and everything is lost"? I worry most about
> corrupting the pool2 also if pool1 has gone bad or there is a similar
> hardware failure again. Or is this whole idea just added complexity with no
> real benefit?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ville
> 
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