I like Bream. BlueBream or Blue Bream. Just change the name Zope3 so we get over it eventually. I'm a "zope3" user btw !
2010/1/5 Lennart Regebro <rege...@gmail.com>: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 16:55, Gediminas Paulauskas <mene...@pov.lt> wrote: >> If we released "Zope 3 the web framework" as version 3.5, little would >> change for existing Zope 3 users since it still includes all zope.app >> packages with backward compatibility imports. Wasn't this the plan >> last year? I see no more confusion than was before, only less. The >> reasons mentioned here are now false, because Zope 3.5 is based on >> ZTK, Zope 2.12 is based on ZTK, and Grok is based on ZTK. Explanations >> written at http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/ are still true, and after >> renaming some occurrences of "Zope 3" to ZTK, Zope 3.5 KGS would be >> the same "Zope 3" thing as Zope 3.4 was. > > Absolutely. But the confusion between Zope 3 and Zope 2 persists. > Renaming Zope 3 in to "Bream" or "Blue Bream" or "BlueBream" (see > there, a good reason for just "Bream") gets rid of that confusion. I > don't think corporate people in general has a problem with renaming. > Renaming would also partly circumvent the "Oh no zope" reaction that > you *still* get from Python people, and which is almost exclusively > based on the unpythonishness of Zope 2. > > I'm not a Zope 3 developer, so I explicitly do not vote, as I don't > think I should have a say. :-) But I think a renaming would be > benefinial. > > But in the end this is yet another "non-decision". It is up to > whoever makes a Zope 3.5 KGS. If, for example, Baiju and Stephan > decides they want to do that, and they decide they want to call it > "Bream", then Bream it is. If say, Jan and Gediminas makes a 3.5 KGS, > and they don't want to rename it, then it will still be called "Zope". > In fact, it's perfectly possible to do both, but that *would* be > confusing as then Bream in fact would become a Zope 3 fork, not a new > name for Zope 3, so that would probably be less than ideal. > > There is also the absolute possibility that no 3.5 KGS ever happens, > in which case this discussion is moot. > > So: Talk less, do more. ;-) > > -- > Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok > http://regebro.wordpress.com/ > +33 661 58 14 64 > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Dev maillist - zope-...@zope.org > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )