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Stephen, I guess if society wants to base its mores on the standards of a
religion that makes up 0.1% of the world's population, that would be their
choice. No one would more surprised than we if they based their mores on our
standards without first embracing from the heart our scriptures and covenant.
They won't.
If we wanted to impose our standards on them, we would initiate an
international political party dedicated to seizing political power all over the
world. We don't.
If you walk into a Baha'i meeting anywhere, you would probably find very little
discussion of the issues you have mentioned. We rarely involve the experts from
wikipedia in our consultations. This is a religion based on studying and
practicing the writings of Baha'u'llah, not on injecting clever puritanical
solutions into the political passions du jour.
GS
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From: Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com>
To: Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu>
Sent: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: Against nature...
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Many cultures attempt to codify their prescriptions concerning individual
sexual behaviors. Such codifications are frequently enacted as laws, extending
their application beyond the culture to other cultures under the purview of the
laws, including dissenters.
Most of the Islamic world has strict rules enforced with sometimes violent
punishments to enforce Islamic moral codes, including sexual morality on their
citizens, and impose it on non-Muslims living within their societies. The same
was true of various European Christian regimes at some stages in history, and
some contemporary Christians support restrictions on the private expression of
sexuality outside of marriage, ranging from prohibitions of prostitution to
restrictions on oral sex and sodomy.
The Wikipedia links is below, but why would society base it's mores on the
standards of a religion that makes up 0.1% of the world's population?
Susan, while conservatives tend to make claims like that all the time, no
actual evidence has shown that to be true. Instead, two parent households
regardless of gender is the ideal home according to the data. Interpreting the
data any other way is a non sequitur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_sexuality
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On Apr 17, 2013, at 13:51, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Susan, have you read the earlier e-mail in this thread. Don C thinks society
should have a zero tolerance policy towards non-heterosexuality. No marriage,
no civil unions, no domestic partnership, no adoption, no parental rights, etc.
He was complaining society gives them too many rights and blames it on secular
liberalism.
I'm sorry, but I read all of Don's posts and I didn't read a single one which
stated that gays should have no legal rights or be afforded any tolerance. That
would be diametrically opposed to our own NSAs recent letter on this issue.
But I'll let him say for himself whether he thinks you have accurately
represented his views. But please show me exactly where Don said that a gay
parent should lose all of their parental rights? As far as 'adoption' goes, I
don't think there is any such thing as a 'right' to adoption. Adoptions should
be for the benefit of the child, period. And I would agree with Don that
children are better off with a mother and a father. But there are cases,
especially with hard-to-place children, where a single parent or homosexual
couple might be the best alternative to foster care. For instance, I know of
one gay couple that adopted a five African-American siblings. No way would
those kids have been kept together under any other circumstance. In that case,
keeping the brothers and sisters together ought to take precedence over not
providing them with both a mother and a father. .
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