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on the contrary . . . .

Like most Euro-Americans, you believe in some kind of authoritarianism in which 
those in control pass laws to make people behave according to your standards 
and then punish people who do not comply.  i reject that as an efficient and 
effective means of administration.  

Further, I do believe in a form of separation of church and state such that 
Baha'i law will not be forced on non-Baha'is.

What happens when Baha'is "run the world"?  First off, I reject the 
terminology.  I don't believe Baha'is will ever "be in charge" in the sense 
that governments are today.   When the Baha'i Commonwealth with the House of 
Justice at its head comes into being, the entire idea of someone being in 
charge will be seen as anachronistic.  

How do I believe the Baha'i administration will "come to power"?  By default.  
It will be recognized as the only effective administrative system that is 
actually functioning.  You think this is impossible?  Look at what has happened 
in parts of the world where the central government has collapsed and 
fundamentalist Islam has been embraced by the populace, if only temporarily.  
They were accepted because they provided stability and nobody else could.  in a 
similar manner, parts of northern Italy were ruled by the Communist Party for 
the the same reason.  You may not have liked their philosophy, but there were 
relatively corruption free.  

You and I Stephen have extremely different administrative philosophies.  Not 
only am I a Baha'i, but I also have a libertarian left administrative 
philosophy.  There are not very many other Baha'is in that category and even 
fewer who have given any tho't as to how that philosophy informs the 
functioning of the Baha'i Administration.  

According to Baha'u'llah, this is not merely a new Dispensation, but a new age, 
the Age of Maturity.  As such, what we are going thru' is the greatest change 
to the functioning of human affairs since the mythic "Time of Adam", when the 
Culture Hero societies replaced the Mother Goddess societies.  The Adamic Cycle 
can be seen as the equivalent of going thru' puberty.  We are now embarking on 
our maturity and it is time for us to grow up and take responsibility for our 
own affairs instead of waiting for mommy and daddy 
(kings/gov'ts/administrators) to tell us what to do.  Rather, the new purpose 
of administrators is to remind us, repeatedly and persistently if necessary, 
what the proper principles should guide us.  Shoghi Effendi made reference to 
this idea many years ago when he told local Assemblies to quit making up rules 
to enforce on their members.  

Another point - most leftist activists in the United States are authoritarian, 
they seek power so they can make other people do things their way.  Most 
leftist activists also define equality in terms of power; that is, a group of 
people are only equal to the extent they have members who exercise power.  That 
is the reason some people make a big deal out of there not being any women on 
the House of Justice.  It is seen as having for its purpose the exercise of 
power and if women are not allowed to participate, then they have less power 
and are, therefore, not quite equal.  I reject that entire argument.

You may think I have avoided the topic or changed it. i have not.   What I have 
done is shown how your entire argument is irrelevant.  

Don C

> Susan, have you read the earlier e-mail in this thread. Don C thinks society 
> should have a zero tolerance policy towards non-heterosexuality. No marriage, 
> no civil unions, no domestic partnership, no adoption, no parental rights, 
> etc. He was complaining society gives them too many rights and blames it on 
> secular liberalism. 


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