The Baha'i Studies Listserv How would public policy me made for example in this hypothetical city, state, nation, or world?
Imagine religious demographics were: Atheist, Agnostic, No Religion, Secular 30% Christian 30% Muslim 12% Jewish 6% Buddhist 4% Hindu 4% Folk religion 3% Sikh 2% Baha'i 1% Wicca 1% Jain 1% Shinto 1% Other religions 5% Now imagine the city-state I imagined up used consultation as a public policy method. You think consultation is the ideal public policy method. Baha'is don't have a monopoly on consultation, ancient Greeks did this first. Why must the Baha'i one percent in this situation that all consultations must conform to their scripture over and above the ninety nine percent and their scriptures? Also note, the demographics aren't uniform throughout the city states. Some areas have as much as 10% Wiccan. Some areas have as much as 20% Hindu. Some areas have no Christians and no Muslims, due to them abstaining from neighborhoods they stereotype as sinful whether due to drugs, blood, nature worship, sex industry, etc. Some areas are completely religious due to secularists being averse to the high levels of religion in the area. Some areas are known as Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, and folk districts and hence have a higher than average amount there. Consultation is generally known as Athenian Democracy. Let's calls this city-state either Athena or Minerva due to the democracy reference and a Greece motif due to Athenian Democracy. Susan how would you assume this Republic of Athena were to work with Consultation as its form of government? Why would people want a theocracy where scripture trumps democracy? Even if it became the Holy Theocratic State of Athena, why Baha'i scripture if Baha'is are only one percent of the population? If they wanted a state religion, why the Baha'i Faith given the demographics? I should also add that overall the Republic of Athena is affirming to non-heterosexuals, even among the various religious populations of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus. Secularists, Folk religionists, Wiccans, and others are affirming as well. Why should the minority of Sikhs, Baha'is, Jains, and Shintoists demand society be otherwise given their total of four percent of the population? So, 96% are affirming. Wow, this is amazing. I surprised myself with how much data I could extrapolate from a hypothetical city-state that was a product of a thought experiment. Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:53, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Things >> like adoption and marriage are private contracts and the government has no >> reason to interfere is the standard Libertarian Right argument. > > I would largely agree with that except that in the case of adoption > the 'contract' involves a party unable to speak up for themselves, > namely the child. > > Also, what I've read from various blogs like >> Karen Bacquet's blogs and various other is that the ideal of Baha'i >> Administration and the reality of Baha'i Administration are two separate >> things. Actually the stories I've read of Baha'i Administration in action >> rivals North Korea, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and other such places in >> terms of totalitarianism. > > If you use disgruntled ex-Baha'is as your source of information that > is what you are going to hear. However, if you had actually interacted > with the Baha'i community in real life rather than just on the > internet I think you would have found out differently. >> >> Interesting side note, what if consultation resulted in the people involved >> accepting anything forbidden by the Kitab-I-Aqdas? > > Consultation does not trump the Word of God. If it did, there would be > no need for revelation. > >> Also, I find your description of Administrators to be not consistent with >> the facts of how Administrators actually behave. > > And you know what about this from personal experience. 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