The Baha'i Studies Listserv Also forgot to mention that Northern Cyprus is probably the same as Turkey.
Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:11, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I have no info on other states such as Northern Cyprus, Palestine, > Somaliland, Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, etc. > > I'll also list the countries where there is no illegality for Muslims listed. > Algeria, Comoros, Egypt, Morocco, Niger, Tunisia, Iraq, Turkey. Sahrawi Arab > Democratic Republic is propbably the same as Morocco. No info on Somalia or > Somaliland. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 20, 2013, at 20:05, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> Susan, let's try this. On your next trip to Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, >> Kuwait, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen, etc. See if you can legally buy >> and drink alcohol there. Then, try and search the black market for illegal >> alcohol if you need to. While you don't have to actually drink the alcohol >> once you get it, but you need to see which one of us is correct. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 18, 2013, at 15:24, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>> Here below is a Wikipedia excerpt. >>> >>> Note Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Brunei, Bangladesh, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, >>> Yemen, etc. are listed as completely illegal alcohol status rather than >>> just Saudi Arabia like you imply. >>> >>> Also note Iran and Pakistan are listed as almost completely illegal. >>> >>> Also note in Gabon, Gambia, Malaysia, Maldives, etc. alcohol is legal for >>> everyone except the Muslim minority. >>> ethanol (ethyl alcohol, commonly referred to as simply alcohol, produced >>> through fermentation by yeast in alcoholic beverages such as wine and beer) >>> – legal but regulated in most parts of the world, and illegal in several >>> Muslim countries such as Pakistan, Libya, Sudan, Iran and Saudi Arabia; not >>> consumed by members of some religions. It acts as a GABAA receptor agonist. >>> In chemistry,alcohol can refer to more than ethyl alcohol. Methanol (methyl >>> alcohol, or wood alcohol) is poisonous. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 15:10, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>>>> I think only Indonesia is such a Muslim state. All other Muslim states >>>>> impose Islamic law on all people there, regardless of their actual >>>>> religious >>>>> beliefs. India is another state that has religious law that varies >>>>> depending >>>>> upon the religion of the person. But for the most, theocratic states and >>>>> religious states always impose one religions's laws on all people in their >>>>> territory and citizenship regardless of their religious beliefs. >>>> >>>> Dear Stephen, >>>> I'm talking about the way in which Islamic states have operated >>>> historically, not how they might operate today. Check, for instance, >>>> the way the Ottoman Empire was organized. >>>>> >>>>> Your alcohol example is actually not the case. Muslim states are >>>>> completely >>>>> Prohibitionist. >>>> >>>> Wrong. Even wiki knows better than that. See for instance: >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_in_Iran >>>> >>>> Now countries like Saudi Arabia prohibit alcohol to everyone but they >>>> are not exactly known for their religious tolerance. But countries >>>> like Turkey even produce beer. Alcohol is legal in Iraq as well. >>>> >>>> In Malaysia Chinese people, Christians, Buddhists, and Hindus are all >>>> allowed to drink alcohol. It is illegal only for Muslims. In Indonesia >>>> there are night clubs, restaurants, and pubs that serve alcohol. You >>>> can even bring a bottle of alcohol with into the country legally. . >>>> But in certain rural areas it can get you caned. >>>> >>>> While you can drink alcohol there on the black market, it is >>>>> still technically illegal. To clarify, Muslim states are completely >>>>> Prohibitionist regardless of a person's religion. >>>> >>>> Sorry, Stephen but I have a PhD in Middle East and South East Asia >>>> which focuses on religious minorities in the Islamic context, whereas >>>> you get all your information from the internet. Which of us do you >>>> think knows what they are talking about? >>>> >>>> Susan >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:skg_z...@yahoo.com >>>> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to >>>> mailto:leave-697901-1719008.2a3842ae5b2f7d34dd5fdfc724616...@list.jccc.edu >>>> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >>>> ly...@list.jccc.edu >>>> Or subscribe: >>>> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >>>> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >>>> Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >>>> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >>>> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >>>> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net >>>> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-699950-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
