Hey Mayank,

Thanks for the KIP. I think this is a great proposal, and I'm in favor
of this idea.  A few comments:

1. Claiming metadata refresh is done asynchronously is misleading.  The
metadata refresh requires Network Client to be physically polled, which is
done in a separate thread in Producer and Admin Client (IIRC!) but not
Consumer.
2. There are other API calls that might result in NOT_LEADER_OR_FOLLOWER
response, but it seems like this KIP only wants to update on fetch and
produce. Do we want to make the leader information available for other API
calls?
3. Do you know what would happen during a leader election? I'm not sure
about this process and I wonder if the current metadata response uses the
old leader or null as the leader isn't readily available yet.

Thanks,
P

On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 11:30 AM Kirk True <k...@kirktrue.pro> wrote:

> Hi Mayank,
>
> > On Jul 14, 2023, at 11:25 AM, Mayank Shekhar Narula <
> mayanks.nar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> >
> >> Is the requested restructuring of the response “simply” to preserve
> bytes,
> >> or is it possible that the fetch response could/should/would return
> >> leadership changes for partitions that we’re specifically requested?
> >>
> >
> > Moving endpoints to top-level fields would preserve bytes, otherwise the
> > endpoint-information would be duplicated if included with the
> > partition-data in the response. Right now, the top-level field will only
> be
> > set in case leader changes for any requested partitions. But it can be
> > re-used in the future, for which Jose has a use-case in mind shared up in
> > the thread. KIP is now upto date with endpoint info being at top-level.
>
>
> I didn’t catch before that there was a separate section for the full node
> information, not just the ID and epoch.
>
> Thanks!
>
> >>> 3. In the future, I may use this information in the KRaft/Metadata
> >>> implementation of FETCH. In that implementation not all of the
> >>> replicas are brokers.
> >>
> >> Side point: any references to the change you’re referring to? The idea
> of
> >> non-brokers serving as replicas is blowing my mind a bit :)
> >>
> >>
> > Jose, I missed this as well, would love to know more about non-broker
> > serving as replica!
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mayank Shekhar Narula
>
>

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