On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 12:41 -0400, Russell Doty wrote:

> > Running tracer for a while can really open your eyes to how many
> > things
> > need restarting after normal updates flow. 
> > 
> > One thing that might make this less annoying to people would be
> > ability
> > to schedule the reboot for some off hours time (2am or something)
> > and
> > also ability (for gnome at least) to restore apps/windows/session
> > again on login. 
> > 
> Note that the original poster says that he runs dnf -update from the
> command line because it allows him to do what he wants.
> 
> Based on the information discussed in this thread, shouldn't dnf also
> force a reboot before updates?

I believe you are mixing one technical solution to the upgrading
services problem with user use cases.

Yes, one technical solution to the problem of updating packages is
rebooting before updating. However, as the first poster explained this
is NOT what users do or want to do.

So why not just listen and watch what users do and figure a technical
solution that takes into account their use cases?

regards,
Nikos
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