On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 2:54 PM Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 8:27 AM Aleksandra Fedorova <al...@bookwar.info> > wrote: > > > > Hi, all, > > > > this is the informational message, no action required. > > > > Upon agreement between gcc maintainers and ELN SIG we would like to > > switch ELN buildroot to use GCC11 ahead of Fedora Rawhide. > > > > Though ELN is defined as the buildroot where Fedora Rawhide code is > > rebuilt into EL-like environment, in the ELN proposal we also > > mentioned that ELN can be used to test certain buildroot-related > > features on the side so it doesn't block Fedora Rawhide development. > > > > We think that GCC11 is one such feature, where we can benefit from > > testing it first on a small subset of the Fedora content in a separate > > environment. > > > > We would like to invite everyone to join this effort. > > > > The work is currently tracked on Github: > > https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/8 > > > > Once GCC11 is merged to the eln tag in koji, one would be able to use > > it via, for example, mock or container environment: > > quay.io/fedoraci/fedora:eln-x86_64 > > > > For more info on ELN please refer to ELN Docs (as soon as I update > > them, which hopefully happens later today): > > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/eln/ > > > > Why are you not just doing this in Rawhide? I feel like we've been > screwed now because the whole point was that ELN branches weren't > going to exist, and now we have one in the most important package! > "We're screwed" is a bit harsh, but beyond that, I second to what Neal said. Historically, new gcc releases have landed in rawhide right before a mass rebuild and then there's often been fallout in the mass rebuild due to the new compiler. And then afterwards there's a lot of crunch to get all of the fallout from the new compiler fixed quickly before the Beta release. I think it would be much smoother to introduce new gcc releases earlier in the cycle (as in, now would be a good time) to give packagers time to fix things up before the mass rebuild starts. -- Kalev
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