I'm not sure what HF Packet BBS's you're talking about but all my packet tnc's had a carrier detect feature and would not transmit if one was detected. Was it perfect, heck no! But it was available AND it was turned on.
Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Demetre SV1UY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington" > <barrister54@> wrote: > > > > > OK, a couple of points. > > > > 1. No one is defending W1AW or the other practices that involve > > transmitting without listening. I happen to think that all such > > practices are morally wrong and legally questionable. Regrettably, the > > FCC has already said that W1AW can get away with its broadcasts. A bad > > call, but there you are. > > > > 2. Pactor is far more ubiquitous in its transmit-without-listening > > practices than anything else on the air. The Pactor community flatly > > refuses to change its practices, and they routinely QRM innocent QSOs > > with impunity and indifference. Mark's superb petition will help > curb this. > > > > 3. I sold my SCS modem because Pactor as a Keyboard-to-Keyboard > mode is > > as dead as Julius Caesar. No matter what a few outliers may say, > Pactor > > is dead as far as ordinary ham radio goes. It is now solely a mailbox > > mode, used mainly to provide cheap, inefficient internet service to > > those who are not able to hook up to the usual internet grid. Doesn't > > sound much like ham radio to me. Other commercial services are a > better > > provider of this capability--it is not appropriate for amateur radio. > > > > 4. I am a yachtsman myself. I can attest that very few yachtsman use > > amateur radio, let alone Pactor, for even a tertiary communications > > system when at sea. > > > > 5. Winlink is largely irrelevant to emergency communications, > > propaganda to the contrary. Having operated emergency > communications in > > numerous fires and earthquakes, I can attest that Winlink was never a > > resource. The simplest modes, i.e. FM and SSB, provided the bulk of > > amateur-supplied communications. Simpler is better. > > > > de Roger W6VZV > > > > Fine Roger, > > You have your opinion and I have mine. Now if you can't be bothered to > look for PACTOR keyboard to keyboard QSOS this is your problem not > mine. When I look I can always find some. As for Winlink not been an > emergency resource, I have read and still read otherwise in the radio > amateur literature around the world. It has help in numerous cases in > your country and in the tsunami that hit the Indian Ocean a few years > ago at Christmas and if this humanitarian reason for Winlink's > existance is not enough for you then I do not know what more to tell > you. But it does not stop there, it can also provide free Internet > e-mail for the Radio ham on the move globally (from the open seas to > the bush of Australia, to the jungles of Africa, in Asia, in South and > Central America and in many other parts of the "civilized" world, as > we all like to call our western world today) and at the moment it is > the only system that has a global network on HF and this is a great > help for places with no communications infrastructure. > > So Winlink is not only for emergency communications, although it can > be a big help in emergencies where FM/SSB and all bla bla modes cannot > really help, except perhaps when you want to coordinate the fire > fighters or other cases where accurate contain transfer is not necessary. > > If you just want to spoil a Great Radio Amateur Global Communication > System just because sometimes af few ,ignorant perhaps, of it's users > spoil your SSB QSO then go ahead and do it. This is supposed to be a > free world but in a free world we should always be a bit more > tolerant, don't you think? > > 73 de Demetre SV1UY > > P.S. as for automatic operations, don't forget that it is not only > Winlink2000 and W1AW who do that. There are also PACKET BBSes (the > real Robots where both ends have no human operator, the have Martians, > there are Propnet stations, Beacons of all sorts, APRS DIGIS and many > SSTV repeaters, PSKMAIL Mboxes, just to name a few, so if you tolerate > their operation PLEASE do not complain about Winlink2000. Winlink2000 > follows the bandplans just like all these systems do. >
