I must have missed something but what are IED's? The only acronym that I 
have heard are "improvised explosive device" and clearly that would be 
an odd reference in this case.

Even though there are those who strongly oppose clarity on what really 
is appropriate and inappropriate behavior with these modes, here in the 
U.S. at least, it is necessary to get some interpretation by the FCC.

PropNet is using a beaconing approach but supposedly tell their members 
that they must be full control operators. If you read the rules, it is 
not clear whether this is legal or not. If you look at the rules vis a 
vis automatic operation, then they clearly are illegal, but it could be 
possible for the FCC to interpret the rule (big stretch, I know) that 
with a control operator present, this might be OK

My preference would have been for those who want to operate these kinds 
of modes to request an interpretation and if the finding was not to 
their satisfaction, to petition the FCC for a rule change. They did not 
do this and now some of us have had to take action and  do it in their 
place.

73,

Rick, KV9U




Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> Yes,  I received a private email from the individual that is preparing
> the IED's.   With reference to ALE soundings,  he cites ..
>
> ") 1 illegal 1-way transmissions;
>   
>> 2) illegal automatic beaconing below 28.200 MHz, and; 3) illegal automatic
>> control of a digital station."
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> as issues he asked the ARRL about and he reports the ARRL has
> forwarded to the FCC for comment.
>
>
> So, what about Propnet ? Would this not also apply to their beacons?
> Once per hour these station send out their coordinates and station ID.
>    What about Packet on 30M, APRS.  I am fairly certain these station
> do not have a control op all the time as they becaon their coordinates
> based on their UI-View settings.
>
>
> Andy K3UK
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> On Jan 13, 2008 8:22 AM, kh6ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Look at it this way - NO transmissions without listening first, either ALE
>> soundings, beacons, or mailboxes of any kind, are permissible on the
>> *shared* HF amateur bands, except in designated beacon areas or the
>> automatic subbands ( where it is presumed by the FCC to occur, since
>> unattended stations do not, and cannot, listen first for any other activity
>> within range of the unattended station).
>>
>> It does not matter how short a time the unattended interference signal is on
>> either. If it disrupts a QSO, it is *too long*.
>>
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