Hi Les,

This was the first time I could get anyone to even try the mode as I 
have been attempting that for some time. From what I can tell, you need 
to be connected in order to do much with the mode to really do any kind 
of testing other than perhaps calling a "dummy" station.

In regard to your questions:

1. I may have an older version, but I don't find a sound card offset in 
the Options. My sound card has been extremely accurate (Sound Blaster 
Live!) when tested with other programs and can be within a Hz or two.

2. The sampling rate is set to 48000.

3. My main interest is having very robust modes that work at the highest 
possible speed under the most difficult conditions. I have spent 
considerable time sifting through the materials found on the internet on 
STANAG modems (I will use the term STANAG as a short form of what is a 
large number of different modems) and from the published information, 
the throughput drops off rapidly when you go below zero dB S/N. The 
throughput last night did not really quite meet those expectations, but 
this may be due to other factors, such as insufficient computing power 
or the software modem not being able to match the multi thousand dollar 
STANAG modems. At least that seems reasonable to me, otherwise, why 
would governments spend the astronomical amounts of money for such modems?

Having said that, my inside information from those who actually use 
these modems for government/military use, find that they don't work 
quite as impressively as the advertising might suggest.

But at least we are getting a taste of what we can expect from this kind 
of technology. Perhaps others may have more information to compare the 
relative performance of the software modems of various types?

Also, have you tried these modems on VHF? Here in the U.S. we can use 
them above 50 MHz, and I think we can mix and match modes there as well. 
I have not found anyone to test this with my mediocre 6 meter antenna, 
but I just realized that this may actual work dramatically faster than 
NBEMS.

If Skip, KH6TY is reading this, perhaps he can comment.

73,

Rick, KV9U





Leskep wrote:
> Hi Rick
> Regarding RFSM2400/8000
> I wonder if you both set up your sound card offsets in the program
> Options/Hardware 
> This program does require a fairly correct sample rate setting on
> both TX and RX to achieve full speed
> On tests done here on a fairly quiet band on 40m and 80m
> before just before sunset there has been no problem to achieve
> speeds as the records show below
>  
> BTW  Our testing has been done with RFSM8000 which has the ability
> to work at 6666 bits per second
>  
> The times shown below are in the afternoons on a relatively quiet band
> and over a distance of 250 klm for VK2KNC and 400 klm for VK2JN
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 'VK2KNC' accept MAIL-requests. - 4/11/2007 - 3:09:32 PM
> Receiving file '0101vlrg.jpg', compressed size 87920 bytes, from 
> 'VK2KNC'... - 4/11/2007 - 3:10:01 PM
> File '0101vlrg.jpg' received succesfully, all time 406 sec, average 
> speed 1930 (1730) bits/sec - 4/11/2007 - 3:17:01 PM
> Disconnected from 'VK2KNC' - 4/11/2007 - 3:17:15 PM
>  
> Sending request for file 'stop7.jpg'... - 18/11/2007 - 3:33:46 PM
> Receiving file 'stop7.jpg', compressed size 15840 bytes, from 
> 'VK2JN'... - 18/11/2007 - 3:33:59 PM
> File 'stop7.jpg' received succesfully, all time 39 sec, average speed 
> 3240 (3231) bits/sec - 18/11/2007 - 3:34:53 PM
> Sending request for file 'Recycle.jpg'... - 18/11/2007 - 3:35:32 PM
> Receiving file 'Recycle.jpg', compressed size 43945 bytes, from 
> 'VK2JN'... - 18/11/2007 - 3:35:45 PM
> File 'Recycle.jpg' received succesfully, all time 126 sec, average 
> speed 2779 (2777) bits/sec - 18/11/2007 - 3:38:07 PM
> Disconnecting from 'VK2JN' - 18/11/2007 - 3:39:21 PM
>  
>  
>  
> Sending request for file 'closeeyes5.jpg'... - 20/11/2007 - 4:02:27 PM
> Receiving file 'closeeyes5.jpg', compressed size 75482 bytes, from 
> 'VK2JN'... - 20/11/2007 - 4:02:38 PM
> File 'closeeyes5.jpg' received succesfully, all time 195 sec, average 
> speed 3095 (3089) bits/sec - 20/11/2007 - 4:06:09 PM
> Disconnecting from 'VK2JN' - 20/11/2007 - 4:06:54 PM
>  
>  
> Sending file 'Cycle24predictions.jpg', compressed size 65750 bytes 
> (real size 76145 bytes), to 'VK2KNC'... - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:17 PM
> Connecting to POP3-server... - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:58 PM
> Connected to POP3-server... - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:58 PM
> Doing authentification... - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:58 PM
> Checking incoming mail... - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:59 PM
> POP3-server has 0 incoming mails. - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:59 PM
> Stop checking incoming mail. - 18/12/2007 - 1:49:59 PM
>  
> [I cut some server stuff out]
>  
> Connecting to POP3-server... - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:00 PM
> Connected to POP3-server... - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:00 PM
> Doing authentification... - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:00 PM
> Checking incoming mail... - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:00 PM
> POP3-server has 0 incoming mails. - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:00 PM
> Stop checking incoming mail. - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:00 PM
>  
> File 'Cycle24predictions.jpg' sended succesfully, all time 05:08 
> (mm:ss), average speed 1975 (1705) bits/sec - 18/12/2007 - 1:54:25 PM
>  
> You might like to compare some of the above figures taken from the 
> sys_log.txt from RFSM8000
>  
> Les VK2DSG
>  
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