Steinar, I do not know the individuals concerned, they are probably
good hams. The undercurrent however,  is the view of some,  that the
SCAMP, WINLINK, AIRMAIL , TELPAC,  system is not as "open" as radio
amateurs usually desire.  When when one  contrasts the openness of
PSK31, MMTTY, NEMBS, MT63, Olivia, APRS, MFSK16, etc, etc, with the
aformentioned system, the "control" of the system appears to be
unfortunately the opposite of what we are used to.  This is not based
on any facts I have, just a general "sense" from reading past posts on
the topic.  The people behind the WINMOR project may have nothing to
do with this, they may be the greatest hams in the world.  My question
about how much will it cost, may be based on ignorance, because the
AIRMAIL/WINLINK system has always been free.  The nature of the ARRL
release made me wonder if they are building a layer of proprietary
protectiion or the basis for a license fee, but I have no basis for my
thoughts other than a "hunch"

Andy


On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Steinar Aanesland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> What is the connection to the Winmor protocol here??
>
> 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
>
> Charles Brabham wrote:
>> The article mentions WinLink developer Rick Muething.
>>
>> Rick Muething installed the WinLink HF and VHF stuff in our area.
>>
>> That was when we first noticed the new "packet node" with no callsign and
>> the alias "OFF". - Illegal as you can get.
>>
>> The "OFF" node cleverly screws up TheNet nodes so that the NODES list will
>> not display for users.
>>
>> After some investigation, it was discovered that it was the TELPAC node
>> Rick Muething so kindly set up for us that was disrupting thePacket network
>> in our area.
>>
>> Anybody here think that it was all just a slight oversight, an error? - Or
>> does it sound more like something deliberate?
>>
>> After a public exposure followed by a few private threats, the "OFF" node
>> went off the air and Packet users here were once again able to enjoy the
>> network we built here.
>>
>> Yesterday while node surfing about 150 miles north of my location, I saw a
>> node list that had "OFF" listed on it - and the nodes to the north of that
>> one were mysteriously missing from the NODE list.
>>
>> Apparently there are potential legal issues about using more than one
>> node-hop in order to access and utilize a TELPAC station - so we'll just
>> eliminate those nasty Packet networks with their multiple node-hops, eh?
>>
>> Benito Mussolini would be proud!
>>
>> Hiram Percy Maxim, on the other hand, would be sad and disgusted to see
>> such behavior by amateurs.
>>
>> If you see a no-callsign "OFF" or "DISABLE" node in your area and can't
>> access a NODES list, now you know the who, what and why of it.
>>
>> Heads up.
>>
>> 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
>>
>>
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