The problem with the e-mail community, is few people drives all of us
away from mailing lists.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:47 PM, John R Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>> As I said earlier spamhaus and surbl has the data. The question is not
>> which domains to trust, but which domains not to trust.
>
>
> No, really, they don't.  Take it from someone who actually writes MTA
> software, and probably knows more than most people about what's in the DBL.
>
>
>>> ARC provides no protection against replay attacks, in particular,
>>> against taking a set of ARC headers from a benign message and sticking
>>> them on malware or spam.  (This isn't saying it's misdesigned, just
>>> that it does what it does.)
>>>
>>> That means that it only makes sense to evaluate ARC headers on mail
>>> from hosts that you believe are generally trustworthy.  Large mail
>>> systems have enough mail flow that they usually already have a pretty
>>> good idea who's trustworthy, small mail systems don't.
>>>
>>> I have a database that has logged every single connection to my MTA
>>> since 2008, and which mail was treated how, but that's still nowhere
>>> near enough to provide useful reputation info about sources other than
>>> ones that are so so large that I can just whitelist them anyway.
>>> Scott and I aren't saying the code's too hard to write, we can code
>>> anything we want to.  We don't have the data.
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