Paul Do you think you could find a report that shows deaths from autopilot ? It would be more useful to compare that with deaths overall. But, to be useful, one would also have to know how to normalize the numbers, like by miles driven of teslas vs other vehicles.
(I apologize for not doing this research myself, but i think you will find it much more quickly.) Peri ________________________________ From: paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 17:02 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Peri Hartman; EV List Lackey Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments From what I’ve read it’s more often the driver who intervenes and shuts down Autopilot thus causing the accident. Tesla keeps track of anyone actually cares. https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/safety-report-2023-mobile.jpg Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, May 4, 2024, 9:16 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > I would love to have FSD. Clearly not in it's correct state but when the risk > of death from an accident is less than the risk if an attentive human were in > control. > > Currently, FSD seems to do very well. Musk is probably right that it reduces > accidents overall. But most accidents don't kill the occupants, so i discount > that metric. When FSD fails, it does so catastrophically. A human might not > avoid the final impact but most likely will brake hard and reduce the > collision. > > Peri > ________________________________ > From: Lawrence Winiarski via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 05:29 > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Lawrence Winiarski; EV List Lackey > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments > > Here's a dumb question/Poll: I'd be curious how many people actually really > care about fully self driving to demand it in their car? Is that a valid > topic for EVDL? I'm sure the Tesla Fanboys love it more than indoor > plumbing, but what do insurance companies say? Do they give a rate > reduction for self driving cars? > Personally, I'm too cheap to be on the bleeding edge and even then I would > postpone it and till the death rate gets down, but the fact is I'm managing a > 0% death rate so far (knock on wood) so it'llbe hard to beat that, and I've > always had a thing about controlling my own destiny. > On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 08:24:31 PM PDT, EV List Lackey via EV > <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Now one of the early drivers of that progress, Tesla, has announced that we > should henceforth think of them as an AI and robotics company. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240504/ceb218e1/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240504/8cf8bf05/attachment.htm> > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240504/9f5fbf69/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
