On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:00, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote:
> > > Now I'll have to beat the "Sparenberg" drum - this clearly deserves a bug
> > > report.  I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and
> > > don't have 9.2 installed on any systems.
> > 
> > A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody 
> > really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, 
> > that is, unless you'd like to volunteer.
> > 
> > Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed.  They are not 
> > maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is 
> > somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake.
> 
> I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which
> is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it
> maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it
> gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config
> files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run.
> 
> If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like
> DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better
> at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at
> things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable.


I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here.  I stopped using
Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason.  It was  a nice
training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a
learning system I would ever recommend. 

 Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started
my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake
Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. 

 The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of
config files not a psuedo set.  (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall
distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think
for me.  They follow the philosophy of C.  Yes you can mess something
up.  But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well.

James



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