She's an African woman. She's won Yale's big prize. She is notable except this guy thought she wasn't.The I LOVE THIS book site mean to show she also had a general appeal. I see how they expect so much more to justify notability for a woman of color than a male author of potboilers. It's discouraging and the gender list even more so. Thanks for your input. I just don't think the wikipeople feel women count. They have to show so much more than the men. Thank you for taking the time.
-K On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com> wrote: > Hi Kathleen, > > I suppose you are writing about this revision (or thereabouts): > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=October_(novel)&direction=next&oldid=617753940 > > A notability tag is not a "Scarlet A": it is merely a sign that the > notability of the topic hasn't been sufficiently asserted. > > The best way to avoid it? > > Choose multiple, clear, independent sources. > Check the subject-specific notability guidelines. For books, for instance: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(books) > > Given a revision with two sources, one from a little-known site called "we > love this book", it's unsurprising! Remember that editors come from all > backgrounds and we don't all know as much as/the same things as you! > > I've thought a lot about notability, as a researcher, so if you want to > talk more about it, let me know! > > -Jodi > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Kathleen McCook <klmcc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The reason I asked to discuss here is to ascertain whether or not there >> seems to be a different set of notability standards by gender. >> >> I encourage students to contribute to Wikipedia. >> But when notability is an editor's decision with so many exceptions...how >> do you encourage? >> >> Really, I am careful and if a book by a brilliant woman like Zoe Wicomb >> causes notability queries..how, on earth, can this gender gap be addressed? >> >> Here is Ms. Wicomb's prize announcement at Yale. >> http://windhamcampbell.org/2013/winner/zo%C3%AB-wicomb >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case < >>> danc...@frontiernet.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On what basis in Clive Cussler notable? >>>>> >>>> That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries >>>> who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think >>>> we should say that “all published works by authors who have their >>>> paperbacks displayed prominently in the racks near the front of bookstores >>>> at airports are notable [image: Smile]“). >>>> >>> >>> Well, I don't know. I had never heard of Cussler before today (don't >>> spend a lot of time in airport bookshops), but I did look at a couple of >>> his novels' Wikipedia articles, and they didn't indicate significance any >>> better than the October article. (One of them had a single, ephemeral >>> reference; the other had 7 that seemed pretty thin.) >>> >>> I can see how Kathleen would be frustrated by what surely appears from >>> her perspective to be a double standard. >>> >>> Pete >>> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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