On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:11 AM Juliusz Chroboczek <j...@irif.fr> wrote:

> Removing the IESG from CC.
>
> > I propose you start mentioning what you believe are unspecified gaps
> > that could lead to interoperability issues.
>
> With all due respect, Daniel, I'm a little surprised by this development.
> In this WG, we did spend a lot of effort ensuring that all of our
> specifications have at least two independent implementations.  This
> allowed us to claim with assurance that our protocols are not only
> implementable, but actually described clearly enough to allow independent
> reimplementation.  (Which didn't prevent a small minority of IESG members
> from blocking progress for months, but that's a different story, and one
> that's well documented in RFC 3774.)
>
> From your mail, it would appear that the burden of proof has changed
> sides: it is apparently no longer the people who propose a protocol who
> need to prove that it is implementable, but the people who have tried but
> failed to understand how to implement a draft who need to prove that the
> draft is incoplete.
>
> The purpose of a discussion is to try to understand what the other means.
This is what we are trying to do.

> When did that happen?
>
> -- Juliusz
>


-- 
Daniel Migault
Ericsson
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