On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:36:34AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
> However I was specifically interested in Fax over VoIP, meaning I can
> hook up to the internet with a PC and no land line and send a fax
> through a VoIP session. whether it's my hosted server at an ISP where I
> don't want to install a phone line, or a laptop connected at a hotspot
> in a restaurant during lunch. a DOCSIS line is still tied to a specific
> "modem" at the end of your cable company's line at your home or
> office...

I have had absolutely no trouble sending faxes using a HOT "voice" line.
I used an old Dynamode external fax modem, a USR 56k external fax modem,
and when I switched computers to one with only one serial port and
a UPS in it, an Intel chipset HAM. All were done from a Linux system
running Hylafax.

About a year ago I asked around and got the following answers in relation
to sending faxes outside of Israel using VoIP "lines". 

None of the people responding that had cable modems were able to do it.
HOT technical support told me that it did not work due to the design
of their network.

Several of the people responding had aDSL lines and were successfull.
One sent his faxes to Canada, one to the U.K. and several to U.S.
No one ever answered back with exactly who their service provider was.

Questions posed to the Hylafax list were answered that it was not likley
to work, and no one had ever reported success. 

I have a Vonage line provided through AmeriFone. AmeriFone customer support
said they had questions from customers, but no reports of success. That could
mean that there are people doing it and have never said anything, while
the customers who asked, never got it to work.

Vonage changes the provisioning of the line for fax calls. It's permanent
if you have a business contract, they give you a second "line" for 
faxes. If you only have voice service, you can switch to fax mode for the
call by preceding the number with "*99". Experiments using hylafax, several
external modems, with and without "*99" and I think every possible
combination of speed and other parameters failed, so I gave up.

I have a 5m/256k cable modem, use a Linux system as a router and tried
with nothing else using the line and wondershaper on and off.

I also found that my HP combination printer/scanner/fax using two cheap
long distance carriers, 017 and 018, failed to the same fax machines
I was trying to call.

If you have access ANYWHERE to a computer with a modem on a phone line,
IMHO the best option is to install a Hylafax server on it. Hylafax has
a good network interface and if you really worry about security, you
can set up a shell script to scp the file to a temporary location and
then use ssh to issue a sendfax command.

Geoff.
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