First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's
out-of-context judgment.

But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how
many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use
clipless systems -- and what kind.

I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with
thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on
un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about
1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C
with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd
better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips
and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty
quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson
Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and
Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I
mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb
mechanism).

A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention shoes
but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find the
right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my
bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps +
almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found
slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than
Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.

So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard to
give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of my
riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and
loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.

But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with
them.

Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.

Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.

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